But I wish everyone well actually! And I hope you all have a 
very nice day/night whatever! Even those who have been so kind 
to post in my name as I have not been here. Yes even YOU! I am 
so enjoying my mood tonight, post away lol, write what you 
want, I still hope you all are very well, and have an wonderful 
day tomorrow! :) Go OUT! See Mars! You will enjoy it, and 
knowing the whole world is looking at it too makes me happy! 
You will be too!!!

Just a few lines relating to the war in Iraq and why people 
have the anti feelings that they do towards America....
I spent some time over in the middle east (mainly Egypt...), 
some 4 years so I got to hear the other side of this war and 
not just from newspapers/media as it seems most people who have 
written any half inteligent comments here seem to have had.I 
got to meet many different people from the arab world and I 
apologise to say that many of them don't see America as some 
sort of saviour or freedom maker as they make out to be.There 
are a lot of anti sentiments through out the middle east. I get 
the impression that people see America as an oppressing nation 
who only sees its own interests at heart.I got the impression 
that it is all about control both economic and otherwise, not 
just about oil as some people argue. Indeed when you think 
about it they have their foot in almost every arab nation, the 
only one that they do not as of yet is Iran but I am sure that 
will be next.Many people over there feel contempt because of 
this.I am not saying that Sadams regime was not horrible, 
indeed crimes were performed on the Iraqi people. However, 
every time a civilian is killed it pushes anti American 
feelings only further. The average person in Egypt for example, 
if  anything is mentioned about America or their policies will 
only respond with anger and negative comments. I have had some 
really nasty fights over the smallest things when anything to 
do with America was mentioned.The background for such feelings 
emerged some years ago with the problems between Israel and 
Palestine.Those feeling have escallated in the last couple of 
years with what has been seen as a david and galioth struggle 
between the two.Anti- American feelings come from what paople 
perceive as America apparently siding with the Israeli 
government all the while doing nothing constructive to try to 
resolve the issues they have. Before I hear about terrorists 
and suicide bombings some people tend to forget that such 
products only come as a result of desperation from the 
Palestinian people who have been forced off their land in the 
first place and if they try to resist are removed forcefully by 
a powerful army (the second most powerful in the world as it 
seems or so I have heard...). Many of their people have been 
killed as a result and as they are the weaker side and 
extremely desperate with nothing much else to loose letting 
forth a suicide bomber seems the only way. I know it isn't the 
way but that is how some feel. I have met people fr0om 
palestine but I also have friends from Israel so no one should 
badmouth me as not knowing anything. Anyway such anti-
sentiments started from this and anything else like the isues 
with Afganisitan and Iraq only fuel that fire.Unfortunately 
terrorism is the end product of this.
Anyway this is my opinion from the experiences I have had 
through living there and seeing things first hand. My opinions 
are serious and are not meant to insult anyone it is just the 
way that I have seen things and why people have the feelings 
that they do, especially in the middle east. I am not from the 
middle east originally, I originally hail from Norway. 
I hope that everyone is mature enough to understand this this 
letter and not start name calling/insulting me for it. I think 
a serious letter would be nice for a change.

Katalin.

Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
Where are the weapons of mass destruction?

WELL....

First I want to say FINALLY! Some intelligent conversation!
Being a women, I think you are too, we somehow see things 
differently and take things to heart more passionately than the 
males do. (No offence to the males on the board)
I hope I have the opportunity someday, to do what you have done 
by getting to go to the Middle East myself. Maybe someday when 
they dont hate American's as much as they do. I do understand 
that they are not looking at us like a savior. But also we 
arent trying to be. As long as I can remember I have grown up 
with Terrorism. Even before our hostages were taken in Iran. I 
remember bits and pieces of things that happened or I was told 
or heard after I was already born. I do understand both the 
Palestinian and the Israeli issues and sides! On one hand you 
have the Israeli's who were brutilized and murdered actually 
exterminated by Hitler during WW2. We swore after we were drug 
into yet another war, that we would never see that happen to 
another civilazation EVER again. Now I can understand that, 
looking at what Hitler had done to those people! Kind of like 
Saddam, and his own people, mass graves (Similar), beating of 
athletes that didnt win in the Olympics and eventually 
torturing them to death. Using the (So called) Non existent 
WMD's of biological/chemical weapons that he said he had in 
1998, that he has no proof of destroying ANYWHERE, that he used 
on his own people, the Kurds. You know the rest of the story. 
I can also understand the Palestinian issue, they  deffinately 
need a country they can call PALESTINE! But, the actions they 
are taking to make this happen are non-excusible. I believe 
everyone has the right to exist, unless they are trying to kill 
us/you, or putting ours/your Country at risk of further, 
possibly more evil terrorist actions. Ok they got our 
attention, but they have always had it also. Working on a plan 
for the two of them (Israel and Palestine) to live together in 
Harmony and peace has been difficult to say the least, and the 
US will not bargain with, nor listen to any form of terrorism. 
The terrorists need to change thier ways, which would be hard 
if that's all they grew up knowing also. Thus Stalemate!  
I believe they can be heard, and seen without blowing people 
up! Those that reguard us as people that do not want peace and 
only personnel gain are sadly misguided, and probably 
conditioned to believe that! In the 200+ years this Country has 
been here we have tried to create nothing but Peace! Made up of 
ALL Ethnic groups, All Religions, Contrary to popular belief. 
Some people want it, some people dont, and some people think 
they need to be radical to prove thier point. Well being 
radical does not work with American's. If they can put down 
thier explosives long enough to let a well made peace plan take 
place, they will find American's will help them in every way 
possible, there for a bit American's thought there was a BIG 
chance for them to obtain peace, and live side by side until 
yet another terrorist attack. If they continue with the 
terrorist attacks No-One is going to take them seriously, and 
only wind up classifying them as a Terrorist Orginazation. 
Which will put them on the back burner forever. Obviously they 
want our help, because they keep asking for it. And I'm sure we 
would give them as much as Israel if they wouldnt use terrorist 
tactics! It doesnt work. It just makes them look like "Just 
another terrorist organization". And will wind up being 
classified just that, unless they TALK and change thier 
tactics! I work next to some Iraqi's that escaped Saddam's 
regime in the early 90's, that's where I hear alot of opinions 
on this matter, not the TV, or Newspapers. Which I read them 
also, but I'm never quite sure what I'm reading is "Not wanting 
us to Panic" stuff. The Iraqi people that I talk to are 
positive we have done the correct thing, they say we have 
prevented another Hitler, and swear Saddam has, and has hidden 
the WMD in Syria and Lebanon! Now I dont know for sure where 
they are getting thier information, I do know they still have a 
few family members left in Iraq that werent killed by Saddam 
and his regime, however some have been, so I'm inclined to 
believe them over anybody! They seem to know first hand the 
brutality of the regime and know they were a DEFFINATE threat 
to the United States of America. One of them said "Saddam was 
so obsessed with aquiring Weapons" to target American's he paid 
millions for these weapons, bio-chem, etc.., From all kinds of 
Countries!  Now in your statement you said "People over there 
get basically pissed when you mention American this and 
American that without wanting to solve THIER problems"! Is that 
not contradictory of another statement you made 
reguarding "They dont feel American's are some form of Savior 
because we arent helping them with thier problems"? How can we 
be both? If they dont see us as a Peace Maker (Savior is not 
our intention), then why the hell ask for our help? They cannot 
have it both ways! If anyone thinks Saddam and his Regime were 
not "Terrorist Haven" according to the guy who works next to 
me, they are out of thier minds! He (Saddam) (According to the 
guy again) said he was not only meeting with Al-Queda, but 
Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Shiite Muslim something (I forget the 
name), and various terror organizations. Paying them to commit 
acts of terror on not only the US but anyone who supported the 
US. Because he was obsessed! He wanted to see America go and 
anyone who helped them go also. Well he was wrong! He not only 
helped Al-Quaeda in thier quest for doing in the US in any way 
he could help, (Buying arms from Russia, France, etc, and not 
telling them it was going to be used against us!) Can you 
imagine the red faces when we said "You know what F.. This He 
is a threat to us and whether you like it or not we will take 
that threat out" Knowing what we were going to find there in 
the way of weapons and so forth, knowing in all honesty that 
they didnt sell them to him to use against us, but sold them to 
him (Before the fact) knowing we would find them which we have, 
thinking we would probably see them as a part of the terror 
organization? Which we have a bit more common sense than that 
and more than likely (As far as I know) do NOT consider them as 
part of ie:
But No wonder they didnt want us to go in there, lol, they 
already knew! Forgive me, I am going on and on, but I have 
someone of some form of intelligence to talk to, so I'm 
babbling!  Anyway, I have not ment to insult you, if I have, I 
just dont condone any terrorist activities, even if that's the 
only way (They think) they can get thier point across. It will 
be impossible with the US. I do however understand that if you 
have been conditioned to be that way, you can get unconditioned 
just as easy! Nice talking to you :) Marie

Now you will see some morons post in my name, and say filthy 
stupid stuff! But it wont be me. You will know when it's me :)

I would try Syria and Lebanon for starters :)

Syria and Lebanon

These places are the ones the US is going to invade next...

And when they aren't there either,

Egypt!
Pakistan!
Palestine!
Libya!
Any other country ending with -stan.

Did you hear what President Bush said shortly after 9-11? He 
said "Any one who wears the Uniform get ready", he aslo said we 
are fighting a "New" Kind of War. The War on Terrorism! He said 
wherever we have to go, whatever we have to do to get every 
terrorist, and/or disrupt thier operations so badly that they 
have no head (Like cutting the head off a snake), whoever 
hides, aids and abeds terrorists, are just as guilty as the 
terrorists, and "We will bring Justice to the terrorist's, or 
the terrorist's to justice". It isnt going to matter what 
anyone says. And I believe ANY President occupying the White 
House at that time and since would have made the same call. 
Then again you could answer yourself, Where is the Terrorism 
comming from? Pretty much any sate/country that ends with a-
STAN. And several that dont end that way. But the entire Middle-
East about covers it dont you think? Some of the best 
intelligence in the world comes from Israel. Shortly before the 
war started, when Saddam knew we were for sure comming, He had 
the WMD's (According to alot of Iraqi head of state types, the 
ones being interigated by the US and thier allies, out of the 
deck of playing cards/among others) and Satelite Video of 
Israeli intelligence, shows trucks moving toward the borders of 
Syria and Lebanon with equipment that sure as heck wasnt 
frieght of some kind. I dont think those men (Blair, Bush, the 
President of Spain, Italy, Poland, Ireland, Scottland, Iceland, 
Checkoslivakia, etc.. the other 26 allied nations) would lay 
thier reputations on the line, knowing they may risk mayhem in 
thier own countries, for something ALL the intelligence 
agency's of ALL those allied countries firmly believe is true! 
And still swear by it! And Mr. Bush is inclined to believe 
along with them (Since our intelligence matches thiers) that 
they are right! And we are too. In other words if that's where 
the road to destroying terrorism leads us, then that's where we 
will be. No matter what country that winds up being! And I'm 
quite sure no matter which president holds the office after 
him, they are going to continue this war on terrorism no matter 
what they are saying during an election year. You know how it 
works, they will say ANYTHING to get in the White House, but it 
takes someone with a bit of intestinal fortitude to go directly 
after them.  I would like to know, since Saddam admitted he had 
them, as early as 1998,and offered up 12,000 pages of "Stuff" 
to the United Nations, saying he had destroyed them shortly 
before resolution 1441 went into effect, but giving no clue as 
to where he destroyed them, no site to test to see if he 
actually did destroy them, made the UN march half way around 
the country on purpose knowing the weapons had already been 
sent out of the country, knowing the UN wasnt going to find 
any, and until we had boots on the ground, started gathering 
human intelligence, we never knew where he was keeping this 
stuff either, where the heck did they go? Where did he destroy 
them? Where is this site located? It's a bit baffleing to say 
the least! I dont see why anyone is surpised that we may go 
where we have to to put an end to this shit! He told us already!
Do you want to wake up every day of your life wondering if 
there is going to be another 9-11? I sure dont!! 

WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS SCARY. WHEN DO THESE HARBOURERS OF
TERRORISTS END. RUSSIA? ALL OF EUROPE?

first you begin talking about freeing the world from 
terrorism...I am all for that.  But then you got mixed up in 
WMDs.  I don't know if you remember any of my posts from before 
the war; my main point was it is injust to start a was on a 
suspicsion.  BUSH AND BLAIR NEVER HAD ANY PROFF OF WMDs.  all 
they had was lists of unaccounted material. That war was 
extremely injust and unproductive. Electric and oil productions 
are far below what they were before the war. This pisses people 
off. So it really does no good to kill every terrorist you can 
get your hands on, if you end up pissing off another group of 
people.  Do you understand? The "War On Terrorism" has created 
more terrorists. Read the article at 

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=165

It will show you that less people are with us since sept. 11 and 
bush's infamous "war on terror"

shit..i suck at typing.  In the 4th line "was" should be "war" 
and in the 5th "PROFF" should be "PROOF"

or impregnate a arab cunt you crybaby pussy.  killing all the 
sand niggers is best.  fucking the living shit out of their 
women to thin out the terrorist bloodline is option no. 2 you 
stupid pussy.  

The males of the sect, when very 
young, get fucked up the ass by their 
fathers, who pass along the centuries-
old tradition of buggery founded by 
the "prophet" Mohammed, who was 
nothing but a limp-wristed (but 
swarthy) novelist. He was the Arabs' 
Ginsburg and Velikovsky wrapped 
into one raghead faggot fraud meat-
slapping wanker. Wahabbis and 
NAMBLA have a lot in common.

September 11th, 2001.  Wahabbi 
nigger cocksucking faggots, led by 
buck-toothed homosexual Osama bin 
Laden hijack planes, cut 
stewardesses's throats (like the brave 
men they are) and fly them into 
buildings, killing, burning to death 
women. I saw the pictures of the 
bodies briefly on a website and I vow 
to God (not your faggot "Allah"), you 
cocksucking faggot Arab nigger pigs I 
support the US military to hunt you 
down and and fucking kill you. We 
already offed your faggot hero 
Osama. The punk died with a cock in 
his mouth. He had no time to reach his 
prop-AK47.

And woe betide you filthy Wahabbi 
nigger faggots in my country. Better for 
you to fall into John Ashcroft's hands 
than mine. He would at best deport 
you. I vow to slit your faggot throat and 
call the country that birthed you pieces 
of shit to come get the bodies outta 
here.

We don't want stinking Islamic pieces 
of shit in America.

PS: Listen up, Wahabbi niggers and 
Palestinian pieces of shit:

Hijack an American plane again and the 
passengers will kill you. I am a frequent 
flyer and a bit bigger than stupid little 
Arab nigger faggot cocksuckers. I will 
throttle you and kick your faggot balls 
right out through your cocksucking 
mouth.

Y  E  A  H  !  !  thats im talkin about...kill every stinkin one 
of the cocksuckin, little boy lovin faggots!  or fuck their 
bitches to death....hahahahaaaaaaaa

About 60 years ago a group of people took the same "fuck the 
world, we are best" attitude. The Nazis; they took on France, 
Great Britian, the Soviet Union, Australia, Canada, America, and 
many others. What do you think happened to them? They got their 
German asses whipped all over Africa, Eastern and Western 
Europe.  So before you begin emulating these fuck-ups, learn a 
little history. Your attitude is one that will lead to your 
downfall.  It is just plain ignorant to say that we can fuck 
with Arabs and have nothing to fear.

you have an inferiority complex.  you must be a fuckin A R A B!
just kill you ownself now cause you W I L L be exterminated. got 
a girlfriend?  is she a good fuck?  hahahahaaaaaaaa

Wow. We have some real intellectuals on this board.

You write well for a five year old.

From: sa27 
To: marie 
Date: Sat Aug 30 14:28:48 2003 
Message:
first you begin talking about freeing the world from 
terrorism...I am all for that.  But then you got mixed up in 
WMDs.  I don't know if you remember any of my posts from before 
the war; my main point was it is injust to start a was on a 
suspicsion.  BUSH AND BLAIR NEVER HAD ANY PROFF OF WMDs.  all 
they had was lists of unaccounted material. That war was 
extremely injust and unproductive. Electric and oil productions 
are far below what they were before the war. This pisses people 
off. So it really does no good to kill every terrorist you can 
get your hands on, if you end up pissing off another group of 
people.  Do you understand? The "War On Terrorism" has created 
more terrorists. Read the article at 

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=165

It will show you that less people are with us since sept. 11 
and 
bush's infamous "war on terror"

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Dont worry about it, I cant type well either.
I guess when I feel as strongly as I do about this I really get 
to going lol...
If you have a better Idea than to go straight after the 
terrorists all at once or one at a time, I would Love to hear 
it.
I dont remember all your posts before the war, I do remember 
that you were opposed to it. Which is your God givin right.
However you know already that I dont agree, which is mine also. 
Now, I dont believe for one minute that 26 or more of the most 
powerful Nation's in the World (With the exception of France 
and Germany) would stake thier reputations, and mathching 
intelligence, of thiers, and matching intelligence of ours, 
solely on an a suspicion! Dont forget Saddam admitted he had 
that crap as early as 1998, and most assuredly used them on his 
own people the Kurds as early as 1991! Then submitted 12,000 
pages of utter crap to the United Nations for UN Resolution 
1441. Which in turn sent the inspectors back yet again to 
examine and look for ANY site which he destroyed anything! 
(Also dont forget he threw out the weapons inspectors in 1998 
also, giving him plenty of chance to hide, make more, 
etc..Something someone with nothing to hide certainly wouldnt 
do) In the 12,000 pages of nonsense he submitted to the United 
Nation's, he was suppose to outline where and when he destroyed 
his uh..stuff! It was totally left out. Everyone knew he had 
the stuff, since he addmitted it, even boasted about it, and 
proved it by using it on his own people. According to this 
Iraqi guy I work next to, (Who escaped Saddam's regime in the 
early 90's) It was like common knowledge that ALL Iraqi's knew 
he had them, but the everyday Iraqi wasnt privi to the 
information on where they were. Sort of like a tatic to "Keep 
his people in line" So to speak, by scaring the shit out of 
them, knowing he may bust out his arsenal, and use them on them 
like he did the Kurd's at ANY time, if there was something 
going on he didnt like! Anyway, there wasnt just a "List" of 
unnacounted for Material. More than 26 countries intelligence, 
matching ours, and Britan's, besides the fact he admitted 
having them, and proved it by using them on his own people, I 
would hardly call "No Proof".
That war was not only RIGHT in EVERY sense of the word, but 
between all the Countries involved (We cannot take full credit) 
they eliminated another HITLER! And yes that's exactly what he 
was. The oil production, and electricity were pretty damn close 
to the capacity it was pre-war, until what's left of the 'Ol 
Saddam loyalists decided we were making great progress there, 
and decided to blow up bridges, oil production plant's, a main 
Electricity production facility, etc...which set us back a bit. 
But wont set us back for long. (Saddam really cared about those 
people eh?) This is also the fastest rebuilding of a Nation 
after a "Change in Regime" ever recorded in History! If it 
wasnt for the precision guided weaponry we and the coalition 
forces used to limit the damage and casualties, the situation 
would be alot worse. Hitting the ground as fast as we did was 
brilliant to say the least, leaving Saddam with not alot of 
options as how he could destroy his people even further by 
leaving them nothing if he possibly could. Some more of these 
attacks on thier own infastructure, and people, and they (The 
Iraqi's) are going to finally say "Hey wait a minute, I'm 
getting sick of this shit). And start going after those guilty 
themselves. Which would be a very good thing for us and the 
coalition. Which I am feeling is going to start happening soon 
anyway. 
I am not worried about "Pissing off more terrorists", the more 
that come out and rear thier ugly heads, the faster they will 
fall, I know what you are saying about creating more of them, 
but bring them on, they will be sqashed as fast as the rest.
While we are on the subject of "More or Less of them" (The 
Terrorists), you have to admit that they are not operating with 
the freedom they had to move around, communicate with each 
other (Except in Person), Get ahold to thier money as easily as 
they used to, and quite a large number of them are either in 
Gitmo, or dead. Something like 2/3's? I think that's a 
tremendous number for a war that has been going on since only 9-
11! Considering the fact that we have stopped the flow of alot 
of thier money to them, have voice recognition throughout the 
satelite, telecommunications, and Internet route, civilians and 
intelligence turning them in at a fast pace making it possible 
to capture and or kill them, getting more intelligence from 
those that have been captured and interigated (And no I dont 
give a damn how they are interigating them) etc...I think we 
and the coalition have made tremendous progress in the "War on 
Terror" in such a short period of time. I havent read the 
article you posted up there yet, but again I will have to 
disagree, I think we have MORE people helping us and the 
coalition since 9-11 simply because they are getting sick of 
this shit too, and feel they might be next, or comming up soon. 
And without America, Britain, and the more than 26 countries 
involved so far, who are the "Little Countries" going to scream 
to for help if they are left vulnerable for an attack, and have 
one? The World isnt going to settle for the destruction of 
America, Britain, Ireland, Austraila, Italy, Spain, Scottland, 
Canada, Poland, Holland, The Netherlands, etc.. They would have 
thier entire economies collapse as well as be sitting ducks for 
them to be riddled with terrorist activity, and eventually the 
end of civilazation as we know it. This isnt just Bush and 
Blair's war on terrorism, it's the worlds. That is if 
the "World" would like to continue to exist! I hope you can 
look at the overall broad picture of this, and see it for what 
it really is.
9-11 is comming up soon, NEVER forget who got attacked first 
here. We are now fighting for OUR right to exist! I see no 
other way to end this, (Which no one ever said it would be 
easy, or fast), except to cut off the head of the snake! If we 
all would like to continue to exist!

You make several good arguments. I am not completely against 
you. My main problems with what you said; there are no proven 
links between the Hussein regime and Al-Qaeda. I don't 
understand how you can say "We are now fighting for OUR right to 
exist!" when that link has not been proven, and Saddam was 
taking no offensive actions against America when Bush began this 
huge mess! Blair claimed that saddam's WMDs could be launched in 
45 minutes.  Yet you say: "I dont believe for one minute that 26 
or more of the most powerful Nation's in the World (With the 
exception of France and Germany) would stake thier reputations, 
and mathching intelligence, of thiers, and matching intelligence 
of ours, solely on an a suspicion!"  

If that wasn't a suspicion, then i don't know what is!!! As the 
American forces were leaving Saddam with "leaving Saddam with 
not alot of options" why didn't he try to defend himself with 
these? 

MAYBE BECAUSE HE DID NOT HAVE THEM!!

Maybe he didn't have them because they were shipped by truck 
through Syria to the most secure, hard to attack place in all of 
the M.E., the Bekka Valley in Lebanon - loaded chock full of 
Syrian troops and Hizbollah fighters? Read a article the other 
day to that effect. Also, just before the war began, there were 
reports of a major explosion in the Bekka Valley that killed a 
lot of Hizbollah and the area was made off-limits quickly except 
to ambulances. The gist was, the dead were playing with 
ordanance powerfull far beyond the bomb-vest and homemade rocket 
type stuff they were used to handling. Just another possiblity.

just another possibility. Nobody really knows for sure if he did 
or did not have them.  Many of the Iraq war supporters say that 
we have freed Iraqis from tyranny and granted them democracy. 
Maybe they should research one of the most important parts of 
this great democracy's legal system, and my main 
point...Innocent until proven guilty.

Innocent until proven guilty.
_____________________________

I can at this very moment be arrested based completly on 
suspicion in America and taken to jail and forced to pay a bond 
I'll never get back...and you want me to believe in fairy tales?

WMD or not, Iraq is a breeding ground for the likes of al-Qaeda, 
people that want to destroy America. We either fight the evil 
fucks over there or fight the evil fucks on U.S. soil. The four 
bombs targeting Iraqi's co-operating with coalition forces 
trying to stabilize and rebuild Iraq in the past four weeks 
could have just as easily been four bombs killing U.S. civilians.

Iraq wasn't a breeding ground of Al-Qa'edo then, but with all the
instability the US has brought, it sure is now. Saddam was a nut,
but at least he kept the fundie muslims in check.

From: sa27 
To: marie 
Date: Mon Sep 1 18:39:45 2003 
Message:
You make several good arguments. I am not completely against 
you. My main problems with what you said; there are no proven 
links between the Hussein regime and Al-Qaeda. I don't 
understand how you can say "We are now fighting for OUR right 
to 
exist!" when that link has not been proven, and Saddam was 
taking no offensive actions against America when Bush began 
this 
huge mess! Blair claimed that saddam's WMDs could be launched 
in 
45 minutes.  Yet you say: "I dont believe for one minute that 
26 
or more of the most powerful Nation's in the World (With the 
exception of France and Germany) would stake thier reputations, 
and mathching intelligence, of thiers, and matching 
intelligence 
of ours, solely on an a suspicion!"  

If that wasn't a suspicion, then i don't know what is!!! As the 
American forces were leaving Saddam with "leaving Saddam with 
not alot of options" why didn't he try to defend himself with 
these? 

MAYBE BECAUSE HE DID NOT HAVE THEM!!

------------------------------------------------------

Ok, shortly after we were "In Country", why it wasnt highly 
publicized I dont know, but we found literaly in the first week 
or two an Al-Queda training camp not to far from the 
infamous "Mural" depicting the first plane to hit World Trade 
Center One. I dont remember what town this was, Now this I know 
for sure because some of the War footage I couldnt watch at 
work so I recorded it to see when I got home. And I still have 
it. Needless to say I myself was shocked when I saw it, and 
started questioning after several days why it wasnt publicized 
MORE! There was no way to hide it or cover it up, because of 
the embedded reporter's. 
Saddam Hussien (May the piss of Allah lay upon him) 
was "Terrorist Haven". There was all kinds of goings on over 
there in the way of Terrorist activities. Some may not be 
proven YET, but it will be eventually. One thing that has been 
proven was he paid Palestinian Families for thier son's or 
daughter's to commit homicide bombings in Israel! Leaving 
behind video tapes of thier last words, and how Saddam's money 
would help thier families and so forth. And these parents were 
actually PROUD of this. Now, seeing the training camp, 
the "Mural", and there have been phone records PROVEN between 
Saddam, and Bin Laden. Hell they were comunicating through our 
own satelite's. There are some other things that I have 
forgotten but the proof is there. That one just happens to 
stick in my mind.
The reason I say we are now fighting for our right to "Exist" 
is because there are people that want to kill us, wipe us off 
the face of the earth, totally destroy us. Setting aside the 
(Iraq is free, we and the coalition helped them) and all that, 
there was more going on over in Iraq than just wanting to 
destroy the United States, the man was turning into another 
Hitler, (Or had already) and his sons were no better, and were 
helping him. He had what every terrorist wanted, weapons, of 
all different kinds, ADMITTEDLY. Dont forget he admitted he had 
these weapons back in 1998! That's why there was a UN 
Resolution 1441. That at the time EVERY Country in the UN voted 
for. Which states very clearly "Force will be used if he does 
not dissarm". (Which for thier own personal gain, or whatever 
reasons, probably money and embarassment, and the fact that 
some of the weapons we have found so far bare the markings of 
France, Germany, and Russia, backed out on the use of force 
portion).  
He was a "Walmart" for every terrorist's shopping needs. And 
God help us if he did get to arm any of those bastards, which I 
think he did when he threw out the weapons inspectors in 1998!
Considering all that, I think it's safe to say we ARE fighting 
for our right to exist! It was only a matter of time before 
Saddam took action against us, he wouldnt have done it "On his 
own" so to speak, the little rodent would have paid, or given 
money, weapons, whatever the terrorist's wanted to commit the 
attacks. Knowing full well his hands were dirty, yet taking no 
responsability! Thus Al-Queda! And Bush didnt start 
this "Mess", dont forget we were the ones who got attacked! And 
any sitting President (With any balls) would have done the 
exact same thing! 
Yes Blair said Saddam could launch his WMD's in 45 minutes, and 
he still swears to it to this day! We are not the only ones out 
there with intelligence you know. Hell Israel probably has the 
best in the world. ALL the countries that knew this, all the 
matching intelligence, the failure to dissarm leading to UN 
resolution 1441, That is not suspicion, that is fact! 
Not to mention, when we would move in on a base of operations, 
left abandoned (If you could call it that, a hole in the ground 
with a few surface to air missles, RPG's, Guns etc..) and 
GASMASKS found at these sites, is more than enough proof that 
his own soldiers knew what he might be ready to let lose! I 
mean that was obvious. We moved in so quickly, I mean I can 
picture those Iraqi soldiers <~(Joke), running and yelling "Oh 
holy shit I left my gas mask!". We had them on the run, kept 
them on the run, Saddam too, he didnt have the time to use the 
bio-chem weapons on us. (Brilliant plan I might add) Not to 
mention the fact that the major stockpile was a bit hard to 
reach in Syria and Lebanon. Oh they are there alright, still 
covered, but they are there. The vast majority is in Syria and 
Lebanon. Those local yokles arent firing at our troops just 
because they want to, they are protecting something!!!! When 
all is said and done there, which may still take a long time, 
you will see that either by us or the coalition, they will be 
uncovered. Even if we have to march into Syria and Lebanon to 
get them! This also should put an end to the folks that say "We 
planted them" However I doubt it, when they are uncovered, I 
bet that's the first thing the anti-everything about this, 
people will say. I know I feel alot safer without Saddam in 
power, his money pretty much cut off, and his country ransaked 
by the US and coalition forces. That breeding ground for 
terrorist's is GONE! Sooner or later they all will be. Like 
this guy said on the news this morning, let them all come out, 
(The terrorist's) that way we can keep an eye on them and kill 
them all faster! 

"It was only a matter of time before Saddam took action against 
us" So then by this logic you would support taking action 
against anybody has the potential to kill someone? Everyone with 
a gun, a car, a cigarette, and a bottle of beer would be in jail 
then. It doesn't really matter how many Iraqis or Al-Qaeda 
members we kill...if we keep invading countries, there will be 
millions more coming at us; we will have to fight the whole 
world.


"And Bush didnt start 
this "Mess", dont forget we were the ones who got attacked!"  
That's very interesting. Then I guess you could tell me what 
saddam did to America to begin the Iraq war. I'd love to hear.

And you probably would not like being arrested based on that 
suspicion.  You would feel it was unjust.  You would demand 
answers for why that happened to you.  Now you know what I mean. 
The Iraq war was a huge injustice to the world.  It was started 
over suspicions and assumptions. I have nothing left to say on 
the issue until I read reports from a reliable source that there 
was a confirmed link between Saddam's regime and Al-qaeda, or 
proof of WMDs.

go rot in hell with your A R A B fucken brothers you camel shit 
covered cunt.  we will kill your shit kind and put shit where it 
belongs.  then fuck ur ol lady and make a movie disgracing her 
sloppy cunt.  K I L L  A L L  A R A B S  N O W

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What is all of this racist bullshit that seems to comming up on 
this site. The stupid insults are already enough  without 
havving a bunch of racist biggots out there writing their 
bullshit on this website. 
That is why this world is as fucked up as it is, from wankers 
like you. Go to some neo nazi site is you want to express such 
stupid views.
The world does not need such garbage as yourselves.

What a pathetic attemt at trolling.

Hey, if you subscribe to the NAZI belief, then you must concede
that I am your superior and obey me, you welfare cheat. Go fix
the hole in the roof of your trailer. Perhaps you could get the
money to do it by going on Jerry Springer and admitting how you
like your Daddy sodomizing you.

ALAWOONA!!!!!!!!!!

GOING DOWN TO ALAWOONA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: sa27 
To: marie 
Date: Wed Sep 3 18:08:48 2003 
Message:
"It was only a matter of time before Saddam took action against 
us" So then by this logic you would support taking action 
against anybody has the potential to kill someone? Everyone 
with 
a gun, a car, a cigarette, and a bottle of beer would be in 
jail 
then. It doesn't really matter how many Iraqis or Al-Qaeda 
members we kill...if we keep invading countries, there will be 
millions more coming at us; we will have to fight the whole 
world.
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No! Just those that pose a threat to this Country!!
It does matter a great deal, Support taking Action? In a 
Heartbeat!!!
Draw them out by the millions, take them out that much faster, 
that's the idea! And we wont have to invade anyone. We arent 
the ones who have to change our ways, they are the ones who 
have to change thiers!!
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"And Bush didnt start 
this "Mess", dont forget we were the ones who got attacked!"  
That's very interesting. Then I guess you could tell me what 
saddam did to America to begin the Iraq war. I'd love to hear.
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It's not what Saddam did to America, it's what Saddam did to 
provoke UN resolution 1441 taking affect. By not providing 
adequate information on where, and how he destroyed his 
weapons, he provoked the Countries involved into dissarming him 
for him!!
He didnt dissarm!

Hey, if you subscribe to the NAZI belief, then you must concede
that I am your superior and obey me, you welfare cheat. Go fix
the hole in the roof of your trailer. Perhaps you could get the
money to do it by going on Jerry Springer and admitting how you
like your Daddy sodomizing you.

Y O U  KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE SORT OF SHIT YOU TALK ABOUT. YOU 
MUST BE AN A R A B CUNT.  GET READY TO DIE A R A B  FUCKER! PRAY 
TO ALLAH, THE GOD OF DEATH AND DESTRUCTION SPUNKSUCKER.

K I L L  A L L  A R A B S  N O W

THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE...ALL OF THEM!

I hate ARABS
I hate JEWS
I hate IRISH
I hate YOU
I hate ENGLISH
I hate WELSH
I hate AUSTRALIANS

and most of all

I HATE MYSELF!

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!

SOMEBODY KILL ME!

I dont have any idea who you are talking to, but I am NOT an 
ARAB anything! And you should be concerned with ANYONE not just 
Arab's, who pose a threat to this Country! Start looking around 
for anyone playing around our railways, rivers, dams, power 
plants, etc.. If you want to do something constructive. If you 
want to get your hands on some terrorists, that's where you are 
going to find them!

damn! they're going for or dams now!?

(joke)

A R A B S must be K I L L E D everewhere.  stores  eaterys in 
the home  on the bus  in the car  in the mosques.  do not limit 
the killing grouds. 

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before its to late.

You're gay.

A R A B S must be K I L L E D everewhere.  stores  eaterys in 
the home  on the bus  in the car  in the mosques.  do not limit 
the killing grouds. 

 K I L L  A L L  A R A B S  N O W

before its to late.
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Um! Dont you think that is a touch to radical?
I mean what if it's a John Walker Linde kind of a person, you 
would never know!

Denomini i ragionieri! Il mio ombrello   su fuoco!

HA! GO DOWN TO ALAWOONA!

go down on ur camel raghead bitch.  ur days are numbered stinkin 
animal fucker.  allah kill you.  

After getting nailed by a Daisy Cutter, Osama bin Laden made 
his way to
the 
pearly gates. There, he is greeted by George Washington.

"How dare you attack the nation I helped conceive!" yells Mr. 
Washington, slapping Osama in the face. Patrick Henry comes up 
from 
behind: "You wanted to end the Americans' liberty, so they gave 
you 
death!"  Henry punches Osama on the nose.  James Madison comes 
up 
next, and says, "This is why I allowed the Federal government 
to 
provide for the common defense!"  He drops a large weight on 
Osama's 
knee.

Osama is subject to similar beatings from John Randolph of 
Roanoke, 
James Monroe and 65 other 18th-century American 
revolutionaries. As 
he writhes on the ground, Thomas Jefferson picks him up to hurl 
him 
back toward the gate where he is to be judged.

As Osama awaits his journey to his final very hot destination, 
he 
screams, "This is not what I was promised!"

An angel replies: "I told you there would be 72 Virginians 
waiting 
for you. What did you think I said?" 

It is now obvious that Saddam has loaded all Iraq's weapons of 
MD into the back of his "Partridge Family" bus and is in hiding 
disguised as a hippy together with Osama. Last seen heading for 
Austin, Texas.

I'm sorry I called you names.
I'm sorry I renamed frech-fries to freedom fries.
I'm sorry I invaded Iraq with absolutely no plan for what came 
after.
I'm sorry we did not locate Saddam and that he is still free.
I'm sorry we did not locate Osama and that he is still free.
I'm sorry that the U.S. has another Vietnam on it's hands.
I'm sorry our boys are gonna be in Iraq for years and years at 
great expense to the American tax-payer.
I'm sorry France and Germany were right and I was 
wrong....pllllllllllease come and help us out of this God-awful 
mess we have created!!!!!!

Ooooo, you silly american person, I wave my genitals in your 
general direction, I ave non regarde for your fooolish 
apologees - you ave made your Vietnam, NOW SLEEP IN IT!

We Francoise persons knew you Yanks ad it wrong from ze 
beginning - Zut! Alores!

Au Revior,
Jacque, Le Presidente de Francoise

The American people certainly did not deserve what happened on
September 11, 2001. However, such things are at least partially
the result of US government intervention in foreign affairs when
they are not wanted. Don't let them take your lives for their
policy mistakes. Hold them accountable.

america and the britain and the other countries are the only 
one who help us, and we will not forgot this, the grermany and 
the freance, we dont need you help, we dont want no money go to 
you, you done nothing, you new what was going here, you done 
nothing we dont want you here only america and the britain ans 
coliton is what want now

No problem, coz you will not get our help. No electricity for 
years!

It is now obvious that Saddam has loaded all Iraq's weapons of 
MD into the back of his "Partridge Family" bus and is in hiding 
disguised as a hippy together with Osama. Last seen heading for 
Austin, Texas.
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Try trucks rolling through Syria and into the Bekka Valley of 
Lebanon, and you will be closer to the truth.

Yeah, I think he was making fun of you.  You already wrote your 
base-less theory that the weapons are hid in another country.  I 
thought "He clearly has much to hide." as Bush said in his 2003 
state of the union speech.  The American military is far 
superior to any other in the middle east in terms of fighting 
ability and technology. Why then weren't they able to destroy 
the convoys going into neighboring countries, or at least track 
those convoys through satellite surveilance? Let's not forget 
that Saddam had "25,000 liters of anthrax...38,000 liters of 
botulinum toxin...500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve 
agent...29,984 prohibited munitions." (Also from 2003 SOU 
speech) Moving that much of anything is no small task; moving 
that much highly dangerous material is an even larger task. It 
isnt going to be moved in the back of a couple of vans and 
pickups. In all likelyhood the Iraqis didn't have the capability 
to transport it. So there you go folks, Bush tried to get people 
to believe that there were huge warehouses filled to the ceiling 
with WMDs. Unfortunately, some Americans bit on it, and went 
crazy demanding justice before the evidence was brought to the 
table. Here we are now months later, inspectors can find no 
evidence.

Some very interesting points that you made in response to my 
letter. I would just like to know any suggestions Marie or that 
of any half intelligent person visiting this web-site on how 
this problem between Israel & Palestine can be solved? It seems 
like some headway is made between the 2 when something goes 
wrong & everything falls apart. Put aside the obvious frictions, 
like one antagonising the other thus breaking down the peace 
process (Bombing or blowing up someone or something?)
One other thing comes from a friend of mine from Sweden who use 
to live in Israel/ Palestine. Most Israelis want peace just as 
much (Not the government maybe?) and as it seems have their own 
peace groups over in Israel. My friend told me of one time, 
whilst in a cafe heard a bomb blast shudder down the road. After 
looking into this blast it was found that this blast was aimed 
at another cafe which sadly contained a group of Israeli peace 
supporters which had just come from a rally.
A sad but true story and I am sure not the first I am sure?
This is just a short letter. I have got some other points that I 
hope to adress in the future.

I would just like to know any suggestions Marie or that 
of any half intelligent person visiting this web-site on how 
this problem between Israel & Palestine can be solved? 
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Two more murderous attacks on Israeli civilians today can be 
added to this list when the final victum totals are in.
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August 19, 2003 Jerusalem 22 killed, 135 wounded Hamas Suicide 
bombing on a bus. 
January 5, 2003 Tel Aviv 23 killed, 108 injured Fatah al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Two suicide bombers in an immigrant neighborhood 
June 5, 2002 Megiddo 17 killed, 38 injured Islamic Jihad Car 
bomb next to bus 
May 27, 2002 Petah Tikvah 2 killed, 37 injured Fatah al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Suicide bomb in shopping mall 
May 22, 2002 Rishon Lezion 2 killed, 40 wounded   Suicide bomb 
on pedestrian mall 
May 19, 2002 Netanya 3 killed, 59 injured Hamas and the PFLP 
Suicide bomb in market 
May 7, 2002 Rishon Lezion 16 killed, 55 injured Hamas Suicide 
bomb in pool hall 
Apr 12, 2002 Jerusalem 6 killed, 104 injured Fatah al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Suicide bomb in Mahane Yehuda market 
Apr 10, 2002 Kibbutz Yagur 8 killed, 22 injured Hamas Suicide 
bombing on bus 
March 31, 2002 Haifa 14 Killed, 40 Wounded Hamas Suicide bombing 
at restaurant 
March 29, 2002 Jerusalem 2 killed, 28 Wounded Fatah al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Suicide bombing at supermarket in Kiryat Yovel 
March 27, 2002 Netanya 22 killed, 140 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
bombing at Passover seder at Park Hotel 
March 21, 2002 Jerusalem 3 killed, 86 Wounded Fatah al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Suicide bombing downtown 
March 20, 2002 Afula 7 killed, 30 wounded Fatah al-Aksa Martyrs 
Brigade Suicide bombing on bus 
March 14, 2002 Karni-Netzarim road 3 Killed, 2 Wounded Fatah al-
Aksa Martyrs Brigade Remote Control Mine 
March 12, 2002 near Kibbutz Matzuva 6 Killed, 7 Wounded Fatah al-
Aksa Martyrs Brigade Gunmen Ambush Vehicles 
March 12, 2002 Kiryat Sefer checkpoint 1 Killed, 1 Wounded   
Shooting Attack 
March 11, 2002 Ashdod 1 Wounded   Gunman Opens Fire at Bar 
Mitzvah 
March 10, 2002 Netzarim 1 Killed Fatah al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade 
Shooting Attack 
March 9, 2002 Jerusalem 11 Killed, 54 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
Bomber at Cafe 
March 9, 2002 Netanya 2 Killed, 50 Wounded Fatah al-Aksa Martyrs 
Brigade 2 Gunmen Open Fire on a Promenade 
March 7, 2002 Atzmona 5 Killed, 23 Wounded   Terrorist Opens 
Fire and Throws Grenades 
March 7, 2002 Ariel >6 Wounded   Suicide Bomber in Hotel Lobby 
March 5, 2002 Sderot 1 Baby Wounded   Kassam Rocket 
March 5, 2002 Afula 1 Killed, 10 Wounded   Suicide Bomber on Bus 
March 5, 2002 Tel Aviv 3 Killed, >35 Wounded   Gunman Opens Fire 
at Restaurants 
March 5, 2002 outside Bethlehem 1 Killed, 1 Wounded   Gunman 
Ambushes Vehicle 
March 2, 2002 Jerusalem 10 Killed, >50 Wounded Fatah Al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Suicide Bomber outside Synagogue 
February 27, 2002 West Bank 3 Wounded Fatah Female Suicide 
Bomber 
February 25, 2002 Jerusalem 1 Killed, 8 Wounded Fatah Al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Gunman Opens Fire at a Bus Stop 
February 25, 2002 Gush Etzion 1 Killed, 1 Pregnant Woman Wounded 
Fatah Al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade Gunmen Open Fire on a Car 
February 22, 2002 Efrat 1 Wounded   Suicide Bomber in 
Supermarket 
February 22, 2002 North of Jerusalem 1 Killed Fatah Drive-by 
Shooting 
February 19, 2002 En Arik 6 Killed, 1 Wounded Fatah Al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Gunmen Open Fire at Soldiers 
February 18, 2002 Gush Katif 3 Killed, 4 Wounded Fatah Al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Gunfire and Bombs at Cars 
February 18, 2002 near Jerusalem 1 Killed, 1 Injured Fatah Al-
Aksa Martyrs Brigade Car Bomb 
February 16, 2002 Karnei Shomron 2 Killed, 27 Wounded Popular 
Front for the Liberation of Palestine Suicide Bomber at Crowded 
Shopping Mall 
February 14, 2002 Gaza 3 Killed, 4 Wounded   Mine Placed Under 
Tank 
February 10, 2002 Be'er Sheva 2 Killed, 4 Wounded Hamas Drive-by 
Shooting 
February 8, 2002 Jerusalem 1 Killed   4 Teenagers with Knives 
February 6, 2002 Moshav Hamra 2 Killed, 5 Wounded Hamas Gunmen 
Infiltrates Moshav 
January 30, 2002 Taiba 2 Wounded Fatah Suicide Bomber 
January 27, 2002 Jerusalem 1 Killed, >150 Wounded Fatah Female 
Suicide Bomber 
January 25, 2002 Tel Aviv 24 Wounded Islamic Jihad Suicide 
Bomber at Crowded Pedestrian Shopping Mall 
January 22, 2002 Jerusalem 2 Killed, 40 Wounded Fatah Al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Guman Opens Fire on Crowd 
January 17, 2002 Hadera 6 Killed, 35 Wounded Fatah Al-Aksa 
Martyrs Brigade Gunman Opens Fire at Bat Mitzvah Celebration 
January 15, 2002 Beit Jala 1 Killed Fatah Al-Aksa Martyrs 
Brigade American Kidnapped and Murdered 
January 9, 2002 Kerem Shalom 4 Killed, 2 Wounded Hamas Gunfire 
and Expolsives 
December 12, 2001 Emmanuel 10 Killed, 30 Wounded Fatah & Hamas 
Bomb and Gunfire Attack on Bus 
December 9, 2001 Haifa 31 Wounded   Suicide Bomber 
December 2, 2001 Haifa 15 Killed, 46 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
Bomber on Bus 
December 1, 2001 Jerusalem 10 Killed, >188 Wounded Hamas 2 
Suicide Bombers and a Car Bomb in a Pedestrian Mall 
November 29, 2001 near Hadera 3 Killed, 9 Wounded Islamic Jihad 
& Fatah Suicide Bomber on Bus 
November, 27, 2001 Afula 2 Killed, Dozens Wounded Islamic Jihad 
& Fatah Al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade 2 Gunmen Opened Fire on Crowd 
near the Central Bus Station 
November, 27, 2001 Gush Katif 1 Killed, 3 Wounded Hamas Grenades 
and Gunfire 
November 26, 2001 Erez Checkpoint 2 Wounded Hamas Suicide Bomber 
November 24, 2001 Kfar Darom 1 Killed Hamas Morter Shell Landed 
on a Soccer Field 
November 4, 2001 Jerusalem 2 Killed, >50 Wounded Islamic Jihad 
Gunman 
October 28, 2001 Hadera 4 Killed, 40 Wounded   Gunman 
October 28, 2001 near Kibbutz Metzer 1 Killed Tanzim Drive-By 
Shooting 
October 17, 2001 Jerusalem Israeli Tourism Minister Rehavam 
Ze'evi Assasinated Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine 
Gunmen in Hotel 
October 7, 2001 Beit She'an Valley 1 Killed   Suicide Bomber 
October 4, 2001 Afula 3 Killed, 16 Wounded   Gunman Opens Fire 
on Crowd 
October 1, 2001 Jerusalem Several Wounded   Car Bomb 
September 9, 2001 Nahariya 3 Killed, 90 Wounded Hamas 1st 
Israeli-Arab Suicide Bomber, at Train Station 
September 9, 2001 West Bank 2 Killed, 4 Wounded   Gunmen 
September 4, 2001 Jerusalem 20 Wounded   Suicide Bomber 
disguised as Orthodox Jew 
September 3, 2001 Jerusalem 3 Wounded   Series of Car Bombs 
August 12, 2001 Kiryat Motzkin 21 Wounded Islamic Jihad Suicide 
Bomber at Cafe 
August 9, 2001 Jerusalem 15 Killed, >130 Wounded Islamic Jihad & 
Hamas Suicide Bomber at Pizzaria 
July 16, 2001 Binyamina 2 Killed, 11 Wounded Islamic Jihad 
Suicide Bomber at Bus Stop 
June 22, 2001 Dugit 2 Killed Hamas Suicide Bomber 
June 1, 2001 Tel Aviv 21 Killed, 120 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
Bomber at Disco 
May 30, 2001 Netanya 8 Wounded Islamic Jihad Car Bomb outside 
School 
May 27, 2001 Jerusalem 30 Wounded Popular Front for the 
Liberation of Palestine & Islamic Jihad 2 Car Bombs 
May 25, 2001 Hadera 65 Wounded Islamic Jihad Car Bomb 
May 18, 2001 Netanya 5 Killed, >100 Wounded Hamas Suicide Bomber 
at Mall 
May 9, 2001 Tekoa 2 Killed Islamic Jihad Two 14 year-old Boys 
Beaten and Stoned to Death, found dismembered in a Cave 
April 23, 2001 Or Yehuda 8 Wounded Islamic Jihad Car Bomb in 
Outdoor Market 
April 22, 2001 Kfar Saba 1 Killed, 60 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
Bomber at Bus Stop 
March 28, 2001 near Kfar Saba 2 Killed, 4 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
Bomber at School Bus Stop 
March 27, 2001 Jerusalem 7 Wounded Islamic Jihad Car Bomb 
March 27, 2001 Jerusalem 28 Wounded Hamas Suicide Bomber 
March 26, 2001 Hevron 10-Month Old Infant Shalhevet Pass 
Killed   Sniper from Abu Sneineh 
March 4, 2001 Netanya 3 Killed, >65 Wounded Hamas Suicide Bomber 
February 14, 2001 Azor 8 Killed, 21 Wounded Hamas Bus Driver 
Plows into Crowd 
January 23, 2001 Tulkarem 2 Killed Hamas Gunmen Kidnap and Shoot 
2 Israelis 
January 1, 2001 Netanya >50 Wounded Hamas Car Bomb 
December 22, 2000 Jordan Valley >3 Wounded Hamas Suicide Bomber 
November 22, 2000 Hadera 2 Killed, 55 Wounded Islamic Jihad Car 
Bomb next to Bus 
November 20, 2000 Kfar Darom 2 Killed, 9 Wounded   School Bus 
Bombed 
November 2, 2000 Jerusalem 2 Killed, 10 Wounded Islamic Jihad 
Car Bomb in outdoor Market 
October 26, 2000 Gaza 1 Wounded Islamic Jihad Youth Suicide 
Bomber on Bike 
November 7, 1999 Netanya 27 Wounded Hamas 3 Pipe Bombs 
August 10, 1999 Nahshon Junction 6 Wounded Hamas Car Plows into 
Crowd (Twice) 
November 6, 1998 Jerusalem 2 Killed, 20 Wounded Islamic Jihad 2 
Suicide Bombers 
October 29, 1998 Gush Katif 1 Killed, 8 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
Bomber Attacks School Bus 
October 19, 1998 Be'er Sheva 59 Wounded Hamas Grenades Thrown at 
Central Bus Station 
October 11, 1998 Hevron 18 Wounded Hamas 2 Grenades Injure 
Palestinians and Israelis 
August 27, 1998 Tel-Aviv 14 Wounded Hamas Bomb In Dumpster 
August 20, 1998 Tel Rumeiyda Rabbi Killed Hamas Fire Bomb & 
Stabbing 
September 4, 1997 Jerusalem 4 Killed, 181 Wounded Hamas 3 
Suicide Bombers at Pedestrian Mall 
July 30, 1997 Jerusalem 15 Killed, 178 Wounded Hamas 2 Suicide 
Bombers at Outdoor Market 
March 21, 1997 Tel-Aviv 3 Killed, 48 Wounded Hamas Bomb at 
Restaurant 
March 4, 1996 Tel Aviv 20 Killed, 75 Wounded Islamic Jihad 
Suicide Bomber at Mall 
March 3, 1996 Jerusalem 19 Killed, 6 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
Bomber on Bus 
February 25, 1996 Ashkelon 2 Killed Hamas Suicide Bomber at Bus 
Stop 
February 25, 1996 Jerusalem 26 Killed, 80 Wounded Hamas 2 
Suicide Bombers on Bus 
July 24, 1995 Ramat Gan 6 Killed, 31 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
Bomber on Bus 
June 25, 1995 Neve Dekalim 3 Wounded Islamic Jihad Explosives-
ladden Cart 
April 9, 1995 Gaza 8 Killed, 50 Wounded Hamas & Islamic Jihad 2 
Suicide Bombers 
January 22, 1995 Beit Lid Junction 21 Killed, 69 Wounded Islamic 
Jihad 2 Suicide Bombers at Bus Stop 
December 25, 1994 Jerusalem 13 Wounded Hamas Suicide Bomber at 
Bus Stop 
November 11, 1994 Netzarim Junction 3 Killed, 6 Wounded Islamic 
Jihad Suicide Bomber on Bike 
October 19, 1994 Tel Aviv 22 Killed, 56 Wounded Hamas Suicide 
Bomber on Bus 
October 9, 1994 Jerusalem 2 Killed, 14 Wounded Hamas 2 Gunmen 
Open Fire 
April 13, 1994 Hadera 5 Killed Hamas Suicide Bomber 
April 6, 1994 Afula 8 Killed Hamas Car Bomb next to Bus
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These fucking animals do not belong in a civilised nation like 
Israel. Pack the Pal's and send 'em back to their Arab brethren.
Problem solved.

From: A foreigner 
To: America 
Subject: 911 
Date: Mon Sep 8 06:01:02 2003 
Message:
The American people certainly did not deserve what happened on
September 11, 2001. However, such things are at least partially
the result of US government intervention in foreign affairs when
they are not wanted. Don't let them take your lives for their
policy mistakes. Hold them accountable.
-------------------------------------------

Hell No we did NOT deserve what happened on 9-11 Period!
Nothing is the result of anything partially or in whole due to 
Policy, or Who the Hell is in Office, or otherwise! 
Intervention for the most part hasnt been our main objective 
EVER!!! Unless asked, or unless it has been a direct threat to 
the United States of America! If people/governments are a 
direct threat to the security of this Nation, they WILL be delt 
with. We are a Freedom Loving Country! And we will do or take 
the precautions neccessary to acheive that! Be it in Iraq, or 
some other Country that threatens our peace and stablility!  
Dont kid yourself, If The Governments of Other Countries ask 
for our help, 90% of the time we give it!! The United States of 
America, gives more food, medicine, money, humanitarin aid, 
protection, etc,...More than ANY other Country. Now I'm not 
saying the rest of the world doesnt contribute, but they sure 
as hell do NOT contribute as much as the United States! Since 
we ARE FREE, There are those (Terrorists) mainly that want to 
see us Destroyed! Well it isnt going to happen! The AMERICAN 
people will see to that ourselves! The right to keep and bare 
Arms is a useful tool for us when we are at war or peacetime 
for that matter. It insures us the right to "Get rid of" Those 
that want to harm us, or destroy us! Our government and it's 
forein affairs policy, is NOT what bothers us, the fact 
that "People/Terrorists" in General want to kill us does! No 
one is taking our lives for any decision made in Washington DC! 
No One is taking OUR lives at ALL!! Or at least this time not 
without a fight by us the American people! (That is if they 
arent to chickenshit to show thier faces, and want to become 
martyrs first, they need a good old fashioned country ass 
whoopin before they become martyrs) The only ones we need to 
hold accountable are those that committed those horendous acts 
9-11-01.. Usama, Saddam, and/or any present or immenent threat 
to our country. If you look at the broad picture, it is better 
for us to fight them on thier territory, than ours! That is of 
course unless they are to chickenshit to meet us face to face! 
And by GOD the Majority of the American people would LOVE to 
meet them face to face, not in a cave, or a sandhole, etc.. but 
if they want to come here, they will meet the American's who 
dont get to get on the Armed forces list! (Our Excellent 
Military) They will meet us HEAD ON!!! I'm going on and on I 
know so to make this shorter, the only ones we need to hold 
accountable are the chickenshit bastards who did this it the 
first place!!! No One But the terrorists!!!

We will certainly NOT forget you either!!!! :)
Now someday the French and German's will want to help you, (I 
dont know why I am saying this) but they will want to 
do ....... something, eventually!!! I dont know when, but I'm 
sure if they want to have an interest in Your Country, they 
will! It would be terribly sad, since the "Free Trade 
Agreement" that they would not be seeing products in thier 
countries eventually like "Made in Iraq"! I know we will be 
looking forward to it!!! Since I know and most of America knows 
this will not happen overnight, but we do expect to see 
products flowing from your country to ours, and ours flowing to 
yours!!!
It is exciting to most people! Nevermind the people that 
say "We shouldnt be there, and so on...They are like radical 
people who I guess have no value of Freedom or Life, (And I 
will admit) (Alot of American's take this for granted) but you 
are NEW to Freedom, I look forward to hearing alot from you! I 
am so terribly sorry that we built electricity, and satelite 
technology, and clean water, and so forth, and those terrorists 
from wherever destroyed it! But, we will rebuild it again, and 
hopefully watch for whoever wants to destroy it. We already 
know it's Saddam's loyal holdouts, we will get them. It's going 
to take you all also you know. We may have conquered the job, 
but you will have to join in and police your own country! Which 
I know you are ready and capable! You will get used to it, 
Freedom comes with a price, Freedom isnt Free!!  But you and 
anyone you know will have to stop the overflow of "Other 
Country Terrorists" that want to fight against us/you in YOUR 
name
which they care NOTHING about, only the fact that they hate 
American's! That's the only reason they are flowing over your 
borders, is to hunt down American's, but it's also become now a 
Haven for terrorist's of ANY kind (Which we already knew Al-
Quaeda) (Who bombed us 9-11-01) was there, but they will do 
Anything possible to spite you all. They now care nothing about 
YOU!  So you have to get up, take matters into your own hands, 
join the police force, and put a stop to this crap! Which wont 
be easy, but Freedom isnt easy! Oh your going to have crime and 
all, like we do, but the terrorists are your main concern right 
now! We cant control everything, just like you wont be able to, 
but in time you will have a substantial force that will take 
care of alot of it! Dont get upset if you have a deranged 
murder at for instance "McDonalds" that will happen. All you 
can do is try to prevent it from happening again. I could go on 
but it would take days lol...
Anyway I have faith in you! And you will get used to it. Just 
listen to the Military, all of them, the Coalition! They are 
used to Freedom, and they know what it takes to obtain it!
Good Luck to you!
Looking Forward to hearing from you again!

From: 
To: Iraqi 
Date: Mon Sep 8 19:52:14 2003 
Message:
No problem, coz you will not get our help. No electricity for 
years!
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I'm sure they knew they had electricity, till the terrorists 
blew it up!!! They arent stupid people!!!

From: om/cf 
To: Father Philpott 
Date: Mon Sep 8 19:57:26 2003 
Message:
It is now obvious that Saddam has loaded all Iraq's weapons of 
MD into the back of his "Partridge Family" bus and is in hiding 
disguised as a hippy together with Osama. Last seen heading for 
Austin, Texas.
___________________________________

Try trucks rolling through Syria and into the Bekka Valley of 
Lebanon, and you will be closer to the truth
------------------------------------------

Closer to the TOTAL truth! I bet Iraqi knows! But I wont bring 
to much on him/her at once!!!

From: George Dublya BUSH 
To: France and Germany 
Date: Sun Sep 7 23:23:29 2003 
Message:
I'm sorry I called you names.
I'm sorry I renamed frech-fries to freedom fries.
I'm sorry I invaded Iraq with absolutely no plan for what came 
after.
I'm sorry we did not locate Saddam and that he is still free.
I'm sorry we did not locate Osama and that he is still free.
I'm sorry that the U.S. has another Vietnam on it's hands.
I'm sorry our boys are gonna be in Iraq for years and years at 
great expense to the American tax-payer.
I'm sorry France and Germany were right and I was 
wrong....pllllllllllease come and help us out of this God-awful 
mess we have created!!!!!!

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Apologise to gutless Euro-scum like France and Germany? Don't 
hold your Kumbaya singing breath, chump. Nothing to apologise 
about.

From: Atom Ant 
To: Marie, om/cf etc. 
Subject: Funny how you did not retort to this one, 
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? 
Date: Wed Sep 10 03:44:30 2003 
Message:
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Not really, I fell asleep! I will get to you soon lol...

HELLO, I AM AN AMERICAN RACIST

* I ASSUME THAT ALL ARABS ARE TERRORISTS
* I ASSUME ALL GERMANS ARE FASCISTS
* I ASSUME JEWS JERK OFF OVER PICTURES OF BANKS
* I ASSUME BLACKS STOLE SOMETHING
* I ASSUME ASIANS ARE BAD DRIVERS
* I ASSUME ENGLISH HAVE BAD TEETH
* I ASSUME WOMEN ARE EASILY MANIPULATED AND GOOD FOR SEX
* I ASSUME RUSSIANS ARE ALCOHOLICS AND COMMUNISTS
* I ASSUME AUSTRALIANS ARE CROCODILE HUNTERS WHO BASH INANIMATE
OBJECTS
* I ASSUME ALL AUSTRLIANS ARE MUSCLY BODYBUILDERS WITH GOOFY LAUGHS
* I ASSUME ALL FRENCH ARE GAY MEN WITH GARLIC BREATH
* I ASSUME SWEDISH HAVE SEX ALL THE TIME
* I ASSUME ITALIANS ARE IN THE MAFIA AND SAY 'MAMA MIA!'
* I ASSUME JAPANESE ARE INTO BDSM AND YELL A LOT
* I ASSUME THAIS ARE ALL PROSTITUTES AND KICKBOXERS
* I ASSUME ALL ZIMBABWE'S KILL WHITE FARMERS
* I ASSUME ALL KHAZAKSTANIS ARE CALLED BORAT AND DO DUMB STREET
INTERVIEWS
* I ASSUME ALL CANADIANS HAVE MULLETS AND LISTEN TO RUSH
* I ASSUME ALL MEXICANS EAT BEANS AND LIVE OFF WELFARE
* I ASSUME ALL SCOTTISH ARE TEMPRAMENTAL AND EAT HAGGIS
* I ASSUME ALL DUTCH HAVE GOLDEN PENISES
* I ASSUME ALL (AMERICAN) INDIANS DRINK TOO MUCH AND SCALP PEOPLE
* I ASSUME ALL INDIANS SAY 'BIRDIE NUM NUM' AND DRIVE CABS
* I ASSUME LEBANESE PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS FORMING GANGS
* I ALSO ASSUME THE SAME FOR VIETNAMESE
* I ASSUME ALL PALESTINIANS WANT TO STRAP BOMBS TO THEMSELVES AND
KILL PEOPLE
* I ASSUME ALL EASTERN EUROPEANS ARE SCRUFFY, DRUNK AND UNWASHED
* I ASSUME GREEKS ARGUE WITH EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME
* I ASSUME TURKS ARE PROBABLY ALL HOMOSEXUAL DUE TO THEIR GAY
MOUSTACHES (WHICH EVEN THE WOMEN HAVE)
* I ASSUME COLOMBIANS MAKE DRUGS ALL THE TIME
* I ASSUME THE WHOLE WORLD IS STUPID EXCEPT AMERICA

I also assume that English is the language everybody is born to
speak and other languages are dumb, and people should be
retrained to speak English which is instinctive to all civilised
humans, except Muslims, who speak monkey stuff.

I assume anyone without perfect teeth is bad and should pe put
into concentration camps.

I assume that the media never lies.

I assume that everybody aspires to be an American, except for
Osama Bin Laden, who is just a jealous communist. They just want
perfect hollywood teeth.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you ASSume all Americans who want to see 
terrorist scum vaporized are racist bastards. You know what 
happens when you assume, don't you?

I assume that om/cf has big teeth, a loud mouth and big thick
rimmed glasses.

Baseless? Israeli intelligence, British, Polish, etc... couldnt 
tell what the hell it was (At the time) moving across the Iraqi 
border into Syria, and Lebanon! Dont forget when they see 
something (Sited Intelligence) at any particular time it has to 
be investigated! Or I suppose the Israeli's (Not knowing what 
it was) could have just blown the crap out of the entire convoy 
NOT knowing whether there were women and children all 884 (Just 
a guesstimate) of them heading on a camping trip!! (Just a for 
instance) Ok answer this: Since he admitted having all the 
stuff you mentioned ("25,000 liters of anthrax...38,000 liters 
of 
botulinum? toxin...500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve 
agent...29,984 prohibited munitions) (Quite Impressive, keeping 
up sort of? lol..) What did he do with them? Where did they go? 
Why was it left out in his last report to the UN? If it wasnt 
in a Convoy heading to Syria or Lebanon, where did he hide 
them? Or destroy them? Where is a site we can test to find out 
if or when this stuff was destroyed? And why not mention this 
in the United Nations report provided by Saddam, and meant to 
halt Resolution 1441? How do we know that Israeli and other 
intellegence DIDNT follow or "Track" them? And are still on the 
trail. I mean they were spotted crossing over those borders. If 
he had the capability to build all those palaces (With our "Oil 
For Food" program money I might add) transport the weapons 
there to begin with, haul huge objects like underground pipes 
for his lavish underground bunkers, all those humungous statues 
of himself, etc.. etc.. Then he deffinetly had the capability 
to move these weapons, besides with just a couple of p/u 
trucks! !@#$#@! 
I dont believe I ever heard Bush use the words "Our Superior 
Military" in his State of the Union speech, I could be wrong, I 
will look it up and find out, just doesnt sound like something 
he would say (Even though it's true) and I just dont remember 
that! I dont think Bush used the words "Warehouses Packed to 
the Cieling" of WMD's either. I believe it was underground 
bunkers, trucks with hidden doors with "Mini-Labs" hidden in 
them, etc.. 
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Your words: "Unfortunately, some Americans bit on it, and went 
crazy demanding justice before the evidence was brought to the 
table. Here we are now months later, inspectors can find no 
evidence".
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You forgot the word YET! If ALL if the intelligence from ALL 
the sources told Bush we were going to be attacked at 8:40 ET
September 11, 2001, (Just a for instance) and Bush did nothing 
to stop it, he and his administration would have got it with 
both barrels by EVERYONE in this Country, from his own House, 
Senate, Congress, and the American people themselves. So then 
he DOES get the intelligence about Saddam, not to mention the 
proof (Gasing of his own people) just to name one, more and 
more intell, gathers, looks like a threat is comming our 
way "Again" he DOES do something to prevent it from happening, 
and still gets it by his own people. He is damned if he does, 
and damned if he doesnt! Saddam had alot of years to build up 
and hide this stuff, it may take a few years to find it! I 
would at least give our President a chance. I mean it's only 
been months as you put it like 6?, this isnt WW2 or Viet Nam, 
this war didnt go on for years and years. And the only idiots 
left are some loyal Saddam holdouts that want to take potshots 
at our Soldiers. Worst case scenario (Or maybe best): Maybe 
Saddam made it look like he had all this crap, thinking the US 
and coalition would NEVER invade and dismantle, made it look 
like he was transporting something across those borders, made 
this whole sharade up, and we will never find anything! I doubt 
it though seeing as he gased his own people, and every enemy 
camp the coalition troops found along the way had gas masks 
left behind, the condition his mind was in, (Scarey thought)we 
or the coalition will find them. What are you going to do if 
intellegence (From all over) sees a threat comming at us from 
let's say Iran? They have already admitted they have Nuclear 
weapons! What if we stop that threat before it becomes such a 
reality that they could be knocking on our door with a Nuke? 
Will you still be saying "It was unjust", we shouldnt have done 
that, we had no business interferring in thier affairs? Or 
should we sit back and let them strike us and blow our asses 
off the map? I guess then you nor I wont be saying anything we 
will be dead! The point I am trying to make here is we have no 
choice but to strike them before they strike us. I do recall in 
Pres. Bush's State of the Union '03, and the speech he gave 
shortly after 9-11-'01, he said "We are fighting a different 
kind of war, this war will take a long time, and we will either 
bring Justice to our enemy's or our enemy's to Justice!!
If we want to live, we had better learn how to be patient, and 
deal with this in any way we can, and remove ANY threat to us 
by ANY means necessary! And not moan and whine about it, and be 
thankful we have another day to exist.

NUCLEAR WEAPONS ARE EASIER TO MAKE THAN YOU THINK

You are so correct. Every time it looks like there is a chance 
for peace, like for instance this last time with the 
Palestinian Prime Minister who just resigned, Hamas, or Islamic 
Jihad or whatever terrorist group it is that day have to go and 
blow it (Literally). Om/Cf is much better with referances and 
numbers than I am. As you can see. I do believe the Israeli 
Govt. wants peace, I think they are pretty much like us, they 
want to have a life and just be left alone, but it must be so 
incredibly hard for them never knowing what is going to happen, 
or who is going to get blown to bits on a daily basis. And on 
the other hand the Palestinians want something they can call 
Palestine! It's a damn shame that they cant share the holy 
parts that would border on both countries, but that looks 
impossible with what has turned into a land full of terrorists 
right next door. I couldnt imagine if say Mexico turned into a 
Palestine! We wouldnt put up with that any more than the 
Israeli's. I cant blame them for wanting to retaliate every 
time one of those homicide bombers pulls one of thier episodes 
that kills men, women, children, all innocent people. And they 
have quite a knack for "Hitting thier targets",  I mean fly 
over in a helicopter gunship (How they know who is in the car I 
have no idea) and get a direct hit on a Hamas leader in his car 
for instance! Then the Palestinians call a cease fire (Well 
Hamas, or Islamic Jihad etc..)for 2 months, which lasted all of 
about 2 weeks, everything was calm, then boom, another homicide 
attack. I truly dont know what is going to take them down the 
path to peace. We can try to help, but that is about all we can 
do. Actually even the Bush administration didnt like that idea, 
I thought building a wall, fence, whatever to keep the 
terrorist's out was a pretty good idea. I still think that is a 
good idea at least temporarily in Iraq! That would be one huge 
fence lol..checkpoints, the whole works! Dissarm everybody till 
all the crap calms down, and they have an established 
government there. But back to Isreal and Palestine, I'm 
inclined to agree with Om/Cf on this, until the terrorists are 
gone, send them packing until they learn how to act like decent 
civilized humans. I dont see anything in the way of peace 
happening there until then. I sure dont know what else to do.

From: George Dublya BUSH 
To: France and Germany 
Date: Sun Sep 7 23:23:29 2003 
Message:
I'm sorry I called you names.
I'm sorry I renamed frech-fries to freedom fries.
I'm sorry I invaded Iraq with absolutely no plan for what came 
after.
I'm sorry we did not locate Saddam and that he is still free.
I'm sorry we did not locate Osama and that he is still free.
I'm sorry that the U.S. has another Vietnam on it's hands.
I'm sorry our boys are gonna be in Iraq for years and years at 
great expense to the American tax-payer.
I'm sorry France and Germany were right and I was 
wrong....pllllllllllease come and help us out of this God-awful 
mess we have created!!!!!!
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What the hell do we have to apologise for?
Saving our own asses?
I think not!!
I dont see how you can take "An update on the war on terror" 
and turn it into an apology session to those who have a vested 
interest in what goes on in Iraq. That is of course if they 
want no part of any trade, or oil, or money making opportunity 
with a new Iraq! Which they will be the ones left behind if 
they dont. Someday in the next couple of years we will have 
trade going from America to Iraq, and back and fourth, and 
Britain, and the other 30 countries. But like the Iraqi person 
said above, they arent going to forget who saved and helped 
rebuild them. As well as saving our own asses. But hey Bush was 
kind enough to give them an opportunity to jump on the "Lets 
all get together and help" bandwagon, it's up to them if they 
blow it! It may not look like it to you, but there is going to 
be a time when there will be alot of money to be made by 
exchanging goods and services with Iraq. It wont happen 
overnight but it will happen. And if Germany, France, etc.. 
dont want to get involved well it's thier loss. They will be 
the ones sitting back and saying "Well shit maybe we should 
have", but by then it will be to late! As for 
apologies...P'Shaw! We have NOTHING to apologise for!

From: A dumb american 
To: 
Date: Wed Sep 10 09:31:38 2003 
Message:
I also assume that English is the language everybody is born to
speak and other languages are dumb, and people should be
retrained to speak English which is instinctive to all civilised
humans, except Muslims, who speak monkey stuff.

I assume anyone without perfect teeth is bad and should pe put
into concentration camps.

I assume that the media never lies.
-------------------------------------------

I assume you just put Barbie and Ken down and have nothing 
better to do while you wait for Mom to make you some lunch!

your right, Bush never said those words. Thats probably why I 
didnt put them in quotes. When something is in quotes, that 
means that it is a quote. If it is not in quotes, then it is not 
a quote. Got it? Oh, and Polish intelligence? Is that just a 
little bit of a contradiction?

Even if the Americans find the weapons, I don't believe that it 
justifies the war. Wars are not something that should be started 
because of accusations and suspicions. There was never any 
evidence!! You can talk about all the unaccounted materials and 
admissions you want. That was all we were going on. I never saw 
any proof. That is what alot of us war protestors are pissed off 
about.

If the weapons are found, that doesnt explain what Bush 
said: "The only possible explanation, the only possible use he 
could have for those weapons, is to dominate, intimidate or 
attack." I dont remember Saddam using his WMDs against American 
forces when his back was against the wall. Keep in mind that 
Bush said that quote on January 29, 2003. That quote is in the 
present tense.  So bringing up anything about him gassing Kurds 
or the Iraq-Iran war is irrelevant to this context. 

Since he had the weapons (acccording to you and Bush) why didn't 
he use them for domination, intimidation or attacking? Bush said 
that was "The only possible explanation"!!

if americans are so big and tough why did you have to run like 
pussies out of vietnam not to mension korea and somalia not so 
tough then were you said the same shit then but you lost so 
badly the truth is your full of shit you cant fight to save your 
lives thats why you had to get the fuck out of there wake up 
americas going down.

the day your kicked off your land and made to live in horrible  
filthy conditions in refugee camps then maybe you will feel 
different about the palistinians. but the reality of it is that 
its not happening to you so you can very easly say that its not 
the way to go about things. but the major issue is that america 
gave the israilly people the ability to do this and the fact 
that over 20 odd times america used their veto in the U.N to 
protect israil is of serious consern to the rest of the world 
besides americans. maybe now you know why the rest of europe 
think americans are distructive ignorant fools.

If Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, why didn't they use 
them to repel US forces? Didn't General Schwarzkopf say he had 
removed 90% military capability of Iraq during the Gulf War.

Face it, your precious Republicans are liars. Keep an 'open 
mind'.

So, you are telling me that the U.S. technology is inferior to 
Iraqw's? The U.S. are incapable of locating Iraq's weapons of MD 
because of superior Iraqi technology? Gimme a break! If their 
technology was that good how come their army collapsed within 
days? You guys make me laugh, you make up an excuse to invade a 
country, then spend the rest of your lives perpetuating the lie.

What doesn't the U.S, just be honest in their intentions? You 
wanted to invadre Iraq because you are rampant imperialists!

Most Yanks do not even know where Iraq is!

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The trade centre bombings were really just the circumcision of
two giant penises.

And we will NEVER forget. 
Remembering the Soldiers who have died to make sure it doesnt 
happen again.
The killers took a part of us also, but not everything in those 
left behind.
We will not rest until every last killer is brought to justice,
or justice brought to them!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Twin Towers
Pentagon
Pennsylvania
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Our hearts are with you today.
God Bless You
God Bless America

So, you are telling me that the U.S. technology is inferior to 
Iraqw's? The U.S. are incapable of locating Iraq's weapons of MD 
because of superior Iraqi technology? Gimme a break! If their 
technology was that good how come their army collapsed within 
days? You guys make me laugh, you make up an excuse to invade a 
country, then spend the rest of your lives perpetuating the lie.
_________________________________________________

No, that's not what I said at all. I simply threw the 
possibility out as a possible explaination for the apparent lack 
of good WMD evidence found as of yet in Iraq based on a report I 
read of military intelligence tracking 18 wheel (not pick-up) 
trucks leaving Iraq and followed to their destination-the Bekka 
Valley of Lebanon. It makes some sense since the Bekka is 
probably the most difficult area to attack in the M.E. 
Mountainous terrain packed full of Syrian troops and Hezbollah. 

I say apparent lack of WMD evidence because around the middle of 
September a report on what has actually been found in Iraq is 
due to come out. Speculation is, this report will be very 
interesting.
_______________________________________________
_______________________________________________

What doesn't the U.S, just be honest in their intentions? You 
wanted to invadre Iraq because you are rampant imperialists!
___________________________________________

If the U.S. was as imperialist today as, oh, say the British, 
French and Spanish once were - Mecca would be a big parking lot 
and I wouldn't be paying $1.75 for a gallon of gasoline.

you said in september there is a report to come out about what 
they have found in iraq, where can i find this report?
is there a link or webpage?

SEPTEMBER 09, 2003

Will Press Roll Over Again on New WMD Report? 
'E&P' Editor Cites 'Depressing' Failure in Past 

By Greg Mitchell 

NEW YORK -- Shoptalk Column 

Some time in the next two weeks, David Kay, head of the Iraqi 
Survey Group, is expected to finally release a crucial report on 
his findings so far in his search for weapons of destruction.

"I am confident that when people see what David Kay puts forward 
they will see that there was no question that such weapons 
exist, existed, and so did the programs to develop more," 
Secretary of State Colin Powell said Sunday. "We did not try to 
hype it or blow it out of proportion." 

Since no weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) have been found in 
Iraq, close observers now report that Kay is likely to drop on 
the media a massive weapon of his own: hundreds or thousands of 
pages of summaries and documents purporting to prove that Saddam 
Hussein had WMDs recently (and hid them) and/or had numerous WMD 
programs underway that we succeeded in pre-empting.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/editorandpublisher/headlines/ar
ticle_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1971091
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Report: U.S suspects Iraqi WMD in Lebanon's Bekaa Valley (Drudge 
Report)
WORLD TRIBUNE.COM | Monday, August 25, 2003



U.S. intelligence suspects Iraq's weapons of mass destruction 
have finally been located. 

Unfortunately, getting to them will be nearly impossible for the 
United States and its allies, because the containers with the 
strategic materials are not in Iraq. 

Instead they are located in Lebanon's heavily-fortified Bekaa 
Valley, swarming with Iranian and Syrian forces, and Hizbullah 
and ex-Iraqi agents, Geostrategy-Direct.com will report in 
tomorrow's new weekly edition. 

U.S. intelligence first identified a stream of tractor-trailer 
trucks moving from Iraq to Syria to Lebaon in January 2003. The 
significance of this sighting did not register on the CIA at the 
time. 

U.S. intelligence sources believe the area contains extended-
range Scud-based missiles and parts for chemical and biological 
warheads.
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As far as when Mr. Kay's report is going to be released, I don't 
know. Im sure it will make a lot of news reports on the net and 
otherwise.

your right, Bush never said those words. Thats probably why I 
didnt put them in quotes. When something is in quotes, that 
means that it is a quote. If it is not in quotes, then it is 
not 
a quote. Got it?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Lol! Gee ya rekon?
When arent you anti-war protestors pissed off about something?
-------------------
Even if the Americans find the weapons, I don't believe that it 
justifies the war. Wars are not something that should be 
started 
because of accusations and suspicions.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Your right! This war was started because Saddam did not comply 
with UN resolution 1441. And whether you want to believe it or 
not he was a threat to our security.
By the way, you havent answered my question yet, where is there 
a site we can test where he destroyed these weapons at? Had he 
provided the UN with that information he would still be in 
power and slaughtering Iraqi's as we type! 
The reason I brought up gasing the Kurds was there is proof 
that he had the gas to do it with. So therefore he had it, and 
used it. In this case the past tense leads up to the present 
tense. Maybe he kept it around to torture small animals with, 
hell I dont know any other reason he would have for keeping 
around THAT much Anthrax, Sarin, Mustard Gas, etc.. Do you? I 
mean he would never attack anyone, like oh for instance Kuwait!
There were rumors going around that Hitler was murdering Jews 
by the Tens of thousands during WW2, but we never saw any proof 
of that until the war was over and and the evidence was found 
by the Nations involved.
Dont forget we are not the only Nation looking for this crap!
We are the main one we hear about.
You will find out what kind of threat the other Nations 
involved thought he was to them if you do some digging and 
research on the internet.
And I dont think the Iran-Iraq war has anything to do with this 
either.!@#$#@!
I dont know what else to tell you but before we have another 
terrorist attack anniversary like the one we just had, we are 
going to stop it from happening! As best as we can. Now that 
isnt going to satisfy any anti-war protestors, but being 
attacked doesnt satisfy us that want to live. You can pretend 
all you want to that someday this will all just go away, and we 
can just go back to our cozy little lives before 9-11, but in 
reality, unless we confront this head on, right now, and get 
rid of ALL the terrorist slimeballs, this is NEVER going to go 
away! Sometimes during some of these wars, we are not going to 
get to see the "Proof" we want BEFORE we & other Nations stop 
another attack from happening until it's over. Did you SEE 
proof before we went into Afghanistan? Or were seeing the Twin 
Towers and The Pentagon torn apart before our very eyes, and 
those brave souls aboard Flight 93 that crashed in Pennsylvania 
enough for you to be certain it was Usama Bin Laden?  

From: neutral 
To: marie 
Subject: israil 
Date: Wed Sep 10 20:40:11 2003 
Message:
the day your kicked off your land and made to live in horrible  
filthy conditions in refugee camps then maybe you will feel 
different about the palistinians. but the reality of it is that 
its not happening to you so you can very easly say that its not 
the way to go about things. but the major issue is that america 
gave the israilly people the ability to do this and the fact 
that over 20 odd times america used their veto in the U.N to 
protect israil is of serious consern to the rest of the world 
besides americans. maybe now you know why the rest of europe 
think americans are distructive ignorant fools.
--------------------------------------------------
And I suppose this IS happening to YOU! You are living through 
it right now and are not relying on what you are reading and 
hearing! I was responding to what somone else was saying to me, 
and like I said before I dont have any more answers for that 
issue. Unlike the Iraq situation I dont have anyone that works 
by me or lives by me that came directly out of Israel or 
Palestine to give me any information on that subject. All I 
know on that subject is what I see and read, and what I see and 
read is just more terrorism all the time. I dont particularly 
give a rats ass what the rest of Europe thinks about American's!

'We remember'

You really are a poser.

Yeah, I have alot to be pissed off about...Bush starts unjust 
wars which cause the rest of the world to categorize people like 
me along with the war mongers.  I am a person who seeks proof 
before action. People like you are shoot first, ask questions 
later. Lump all Arabs together. Oh, sure, who gives a fuck that 
there was never any proof of saddam being linked to al-qaeda? So 
what if before the war started, all the bush supporters could 
talk about was WMD's, now when none are turning up, they decide 
to focus on the horrors of saddam; how many people he killed. 
Thats my main focus; the people of the world. And I have to ask 
myself, are we safer that saddam is gone? Take all the guesses 
you want, but I prefer facts. Jordanian embassy bombed. UN 
headquarters in Baghdad bombed. Iraqi mosque bombed. More 
American soldiers killed in post-war fighting, than during major 
combat. The world is not more safe. This war to erradicate 
terrorism is only fueling terrorism. 

What the fuck happened to you? You used to have a head on your 
shoulders and balls 'tween the legs. Now you're a CNN junkie 
sucking in the spectacular and all that is negetive. Did you get 
your dick stuck in some Muslim bitch or what? LOL!!

YEAH, its pretty fuckin' cool how all the foreign Jee-Haaawdi's 
are rushing to Iraq like bugs to a light ZAPPER! Better to kill 
the fucking bastards over there than them attempting to kill 
Americans on U.S. soil. Keep 'em coming. 

Have you considered moving to France you fucking pussy?

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

why would I move to France? I hate France just as much as the 
next American. Just because I am critical of an unjust war 
doesnt mean I should leave America. If you think everyone who 
disagrees with our president should leave, then you dont know 
shit about America. I have the right to say: Bush is a dumbass 
motherfucker. He sucks at foreign policy. He sucks at domestic 
issues. He is destroying the environment.

So if you don't like it, then grow some balls, be a man, and 
quit telling people to leave the country. Maybe you should go to 
Korea, a place where you have to agree with your leader. But I'd 
prefer to stay here, where I can be as critical as I want. 

Yeah om/cf, there is a lot that is negative in this war. No 
proven link between Saddam and Al-qaeda, No weapons of mass 
destruction, no saddam, rising terrorism, rising American 
servicemen deathtoll, huge bill for the war, electricity and oil 
production below what they were pre-war, millions of Iraqis who 
hate America, allies of America have left us, a "play it by ear" 
exit strategy, and most Iraqis don't understand, care about, or 
want democracy.  

"YEAH, its pretty fuckin' cool how all the foreign Jee-Haaawdi's 
are rushing to Iraq like bugs to a light ZAPPER!"

HAHAHA! You make it sound like they have had no effect! Just 
look at the UN headquarters in Baghdad, Jordanian embassy, 
Ayatollah Mohammed Baqir al-Hakim and more than a hundred others 
killed outside the Imam Ali Mosque in Najaf, and 
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/ take a 
look at the men killed by these "foeign Jee-Haaawdi's"

Yeah om/cf, there is a lot that is negative in this war. No 
proven link between Saddam and Al-qaeda, No weapons of mass 
destruction, no saddam, rising terrorism, rising American 
servicemen deathtoll, huge bill for the war, electricity and oil 
production below what they were pre-war, millions of Iraqis who 
hate America, allies of America have left us, a "play it by ear" 
exit strategy, and most Iraqis don't understand, care about, or 
want democracy.
__________________________________________

It's clear that you are mindless disciple of CNN, where if it 
ain't blowin' up, it ain't worth reportin' 'cause it ain't 
excitin' and drawing in the suckers. I will, in the next few 
days, provide you and the rest of the America haters with some 
links detailing the progress being made in Iraq. But for 
starters lets take a look at some of your off-the-cuff 
statements drilled into your little cranium via the boob tube.
_____________________________________
_____________________________________

*No proven link between Saddam and Al-qaeda,*
_____________________________________

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?
pagename=article&node=&contentId=A12187-2003Mar22&notFound=true 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?
pagename=article&node=&contentId=A42876-2002Dec11&notFound=true 

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/02/06/sprj.irq.alqaeda.links/index.htm
l 

http://windsofchange.net/archives/003991.html
_______________________________________________
_______________________________________________

*No weapons of mass destruction,* 
____________________________________

Nothing reported yet - true. Where did it go, the VX? Where was 
it destroyed? There is no evidence it was. Dr. Kay and his 1,000 
man post-war inspection team will soon report on what has been 
found to date including paper evidence of weapons programs that 
would be in direct violation of resolution 1441.
_______________________________________
_______________________________________

*no saddam*
________________________________________

True enough. But his two punk-ass spawn won't be carrying 
the "ol' family tradition" either. Saddam will be found and 
eliminated eventually, assuming he hasn't been already.

________________________________________
________________________________________

*rising terrorism*
________________________________________

Where? Have any Americans been murdered by terrorists on 
American soil since 09-11-01? Since the Presidents number one 
job is the safety of American citizens, I'd say Bush is doing a 
damn fine job in that respect.
_________________________________________
_________________________________________

*huge bill for the war,*

__________________________________________

Absolutly. I had to pay for the guns I have to defend my home, 
family and property too. It's a price I am willing to pay for 
the freedom from backwards, murdering, Arab religious freeks 
killing thousands of Americans at will.

___________________________________________
___________________________________________

*electricity and oil production below what they were pre-war,*

___________________________________________

Bullshit. Baghdad averaged 12 hours of electricity daily BEFORE 
the war. They are way above that currently and internet cafe's 
are popping up all over Iraq since they now have enough 
electrical consistency to be profitable.

Terrorists blow up the oil pipelines and the oil flow must be 
halted. All it does is hurt is the Iraqi people and put big 
smiles on the faces of Haliburton excecutives.
_______________________________________________
_____________________________________________

"YEAH, its pretty fuckin' cool how all the foreign Jee-Haaawdi's 
are rushing to Iraq like bugs to a light ZAPPER!"

HAHAHA! You make it sound like they have had no effect! Just 
look at the UN headquarters in Baghdad, Jordanian embassy, 
Ayatollah Mohammed Baqir al-Hakim and more than a hundred others 
killed outside the Imam Ali Mosque in Najaf, and 
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/ take a 
look at the men killed by these "foeign Jee-Haaawdi's"
_______________________________________________
_______________________________________________

This is the shit that really makes me angry with you anti-war 
fucking know-nothings. The absolute joy you find in the death of 
each Iraqi and U.S. soldier so you can attempt to prove you were 
right. Nope. You're still wrong. I consider it traitorous in 
that our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan read this type of utter 
shit and think at least some of the American public don't give a 
rats ass about them or their mission. These Muslim animals kill 
innocent Iraqi citizens and soldiers whose mission is to 
stabalize, rebuild, and help the Iraqi people form a government 
that is 180 degrees from the oppressive, inhumane government run 
by criminals that they had.

Good will prevail in Iraq. You Demoncrat's will have your non-
support of U.S. troops shoved down your throats next year. 
Again. Then, I will HAHAHA. 

You don't even make sense! I lament over the loss of lives, and 
you say I'm gloating? What the fuck are you talking about? Am I 
wrong though? those fighters are still having a severe impact! 
How am I a "fucking know-nothing"? I know that people are being 
killed in Iraq by Arab fighters. Apparently you do not. I hope 
some soldiers can see what I write, do you think I'm ashamed of 
it? I want them to know that I feel terribly that they have to 
be there. Although I have much respect for the oath they take, I 
do not agree with why they are there. 

You don't think there is rising terrorism? I already showed you 
examples. To say that those acts of terrorism are irrelevant is 
ignorant. You seem to be saying that an American life is more 
important than anyone else's. That is the bullshit. 

I had always thought you were one of the few mature people on 
this board. I guess thing have changed. Now when you feel 
threatened or contradicted you resort to name 
calling. "sally27" "little cranium" those are just pathetic and 
lame.  I know I retaliated after your "fucking pussy?" post, but 
I am not going to anymore, I hope you will do the same so we can 
actually talk about the issues, and not be slinging petty 
insults.

"You Demoncrat's will have your non-support of U.S. troops 
shoved down your throats next year. Again." Again? so I guess we 
were involved in some major war in the months before the 2000 
election? I guess I missed that one, please fill me in.

You still need to adress: rising American servicemen deathtoll, 
millions of Iraqis who hate America, allies of America have left 
us, a "play it by ear" exit strategy, and most Iraqis don't 
understand, care about, or want democracy.

Miss u

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

Oh GOD how can I put this? If NORAD was to see a plane off 
course, heading (I dont know where you live) but lets say 
toward YOUR states capital, your wife and children are there 
for whatever reason doing some kind of business, should we 
shoot it down? (Knowing of course it had been hijacked and was 
going to crash into that capital) Or should we wait and see if 
they change thier minds and land it? (Knowing of course that 
they wont)! Do you see the point I am getting at? Maybe I am a 
shoot first and ask questions later type of person NOW! Maybe I 
always have been and never knew it. I do know I have felt this 
way since April 19, 1995!!!  And events that have transpired 
and occured since then have made it worse, to the point I dont 
want terrorism in my life anymore. And want to end the lives of 
those that want to take ours. That struck a little to close to 
home! Instead of feeding the assholes that DONT want us to 
succeed in putting an end to this shit, maybe you should 
rethink your stance. By saying the things you do, it only gives 
the enemy MORE amunition! Now why on earth would you hate 
France as much as the next American? You act as if they have 
done something to you! Maybe they didnt agree on going to war 
with us in Iraq, (God knows why, maybe the fact that we would 
find arms for the Iraqi & Terrorist holdouts that are shooting 
at our soldiers NOW have a "Made in France" label on them) But 
guess who is keeping the peace right along side us in 
Afghanistan? I know hard to believe but France is playing a 
major role in the fight against terrorism! Contrary to what you 
may have heard or read, "Our allies have NOT deserted us"! The 
French, Germans, Russians, etc.. were making a great deal of 
money off Saddam, why would they want that to end? But in the 
overall war against terror, they are one of thousands of 
countries playing a major role in fighting it! Granted they 
(Among others) should have had the balls to stand up and say he 
was a threat to EVERYONE in the civilized world, but what can 
you expect from someone making alot of money off a ruthless 
dicKtator! There have been thousands of terrorist plots against 
America and her allies FOILED! Dont act like there is more 
terrorism forming, you are just now learning of the terrorist 
attacks (I should say attemted, terrorist attacks) being 
twarted. The world is deffinately much safer without Saddam. 
And a new free Afghanistan! Terrorist's have 2 less countries 
to train in, and plot thier evil acts. Do you not find it 
strange how Saddam and Usama (If they are still alive) cannot 
comunicate in a normal fashion? They have to sneak tapes into 
Arab newspapers (That will air thier shit) like Al-Jazeera 
(Recently found to have ties to Al-Quaeda). Oh yes they are on 
the run baby! They are all on the run, and what does that mean? 
They will be captured or killed soon! Do you not find it 
strange that when we had our hostages in Iran, they were put on 
a plane and sent home as Reagan was being sworn into office? 
They knew that man was not going to play with them. You had 
better hope that if a Democrat does get in office next year 
that they have a HARD stance on terrorism, and just as hard a 
stance on keeping our Military budget HIGH on his list of 
priorities!! Or you my little anti-war, message board buddy, 
and I, and the rest of America, are screwed!!! 
You have yet to address the question: "Where is there a site to 
test to prove that Saddam destroyed all that VX, Sarin, etc..?" 
Why will you not answer that question?
If you do not believe that "The average every day Iraqi" does 
not want peace and stability in thier Nation, you are terribly 
mistaken! Go to an Iraqi chat room, or message board and ask 
them! I rely on information that is provided to me by an Iraqi 
that works next to me, that left his country in the Gulf War,  
some of his family didnt make it out, and died as a result of 
Saddam and his spawn! The others he talks to frequently. That 
is what I consider to be fact. His opinions, and stories, are 
what I want to hear, to base my opinions, and facts on! Right 
out of the Camel's mouth! It's hard for them, Saddam was all 
most of them have ever known. And ALL that the new generation 
of Iraqi's 35 and younger ever knew!
Change isnt easy for the younger ones, but it's welcome for the 
pre-Saddam era ones. But dont kid yourself, change, freedom, 
democracy, and a voice IS what they want! The few firing at our 
soldiers, and blowing up Mosques, and the UN, are NOT all 
Iraqi's. They are the flood in's from other countries 
surrounding Iraq. And terrorist's, and will be delt with as 
such.
And grouping all Arab's together, in what context are we 
referring to? As far as terrorist's go, it's hard not to since 
the ones that have carried out terrorist attacks against the 
civilized world with the exception of few, have been Arabic of 
some kind.
That does not mean I am predjudice toward Arab's either. I am 
not predjudice toward anyone. Except terrorist's. 
Anyway I feel like I am writing a book here, speaking of books, 
please tell me your recent views are not that of someone who 
has just bought the recent conspiracy theory book that has 
somehow made it on the top ten list! 
Getting that book on any top ten list is a conspiracy I say!!
Still awaiting my answer as to where this site is that we can 
test to see where Saddam and his spawn destroyed the VX, Sarin, 
etc...

"You Demoncrat's will have your non-support of U.S. troops 
shoved down your throats next year. Again." Again? so I guess we 
were involved in some major war in the months before the 2000 
election? I guess I missed that one, please fill me in.
_______________________________________________

Thats what I figured. About four years is as far as your 
knowledge of history goes back. Which party's President had the 
sense to pull U.S. troops out of Vietnam? Which party put them 
there, and kept them there. OH GAAAWD, here comes the 
standard "Iraq is Vietnam" bullshit.

I like 'em :)

*10 Ways the Liberation of Iraq Supports the War on Terror* 


1. With the fall of Saddam Hussein's regime, Iraq is no longer a 
state sponsor of terror. According to State Department reports 
on terrorism, before the removal of Saddam's regime, Iraq was 
one of seven state sponsors of terror. 


2. Saddam Hussein's regime posed a threat to the security of the 
United States and the world. With the removal of Saddam 
Hussein's regime, a leader who pursued, used, and possessed 
weapons of mass destruction is no longer in power. 


3. Saddam Hussein would not uphold his international 
commitments, and now that he is no longer in power, the world is 
safe from this tyrant. The old Iraqi regime defied the 
international community and seventeen UN resolutions for twelve 
years and gave every indication that it would never disarm and 
never comply with the just demands of the world. 


4. A senior al Qaida terrorist, now detained, who had been 
responsible for al Qaida training camps in Afghanistan, reports 
that al Qaida was intent on obtaining WMD assistance from Iraq. 
According to a credible, high-level al Qaida source, Usama Bin 
Laden and deceased al Qaida leader Muhammad Atif did not believe 
that al Qaida labs in Afghanistan were capable of manufacturing 
chemical and biological weapons, so they turned to Iraq for 
assistance. Iraq agreed to provide chemical and biological 
weapons training for two al Qaida associates starting in 
December 2000. 


5. Senior al Qaida associate Abu Musab al-Zarqawi came to 
Baghdad in May 2002 for medical treatment along with 
approximately two dozen al Qaida terrorist associates. This 
group stayed in Baghdad and other parts of Iraq and plotted 
terrorist attacks around the world. 


6 .A safe haven in Iraq belonging to Ansar al-Islam -- a 
terrorist group closely associated with Zarqawi and al Qaida -- 
was destroyed during Operation Iraqi Freedom. In March 2003, 
during a raid on the compound controlled by the terrorists in 
northeastern Iraq, a cache of documents was discovered, 
including computer discs and foreign passports belonging to 
fighters from various Middle East nationalities. 


7. The al Qaida affiliate Ansar al-Islam is known to still be 
present in Iraq. Such terrorist groups are now plotting against 
U.S. forces in Iraq. 


8. Law enforcement and intelligence operations have disrupted al 
Qaida associate Abu Musab Zarqawi's poison plotting in France, 
Britain, Spain, Italy, Germany, and Russia. The facilities in 
Northern Iraq, set up by Zarqawi and Ansar al-Islam were, before 
the war, an al Qaida's poisons/toxins laboratory. 


9. Abu Musa Zarqawi, the al Qaida associate with direct links to 
Iraq, oversaw those responsible for the assassination of USAID 
officer Laurence Foley in Amman, Jordan last October. 


10. Saddam Hussein's Iraq provided material assistance to 
Palestinian terrorist groups, including the Popular Front for 
the Liberation of Palestine-General Command, HAMAS, and the 
Palestine Islamic Jihad, according to a State Department report. 
This included paying the families of Palestinian suicide 
bombers, according to testimonials from Palestinians and 
cancelled checks. Also, according to State Department reports, 
terrorist groups the Iranian Mujahedin-e-Khalq and the Abu Nidal 
organization were protected by the Iraqi regime protected by the 
Iraqi regime. 

I cannot answer you question because I am not sure that he did 
destroy them. I am not even sure that he ever had them! Its all 
suspicions.

So let me get this straight...you are comparing Iraq under 
Saddam to a hijacked airplane heading for a crowded building. 
That is one of the most ludacris things I have ever heard of.  
Please tell me what offensive military actions Saddam was 
taking. I know that he was not disarming, I'll save you a step 
cause I know thats what you'll say. But in order for him to 
disarm, he has to have something to disarm. WE WERE NEVER SURE 
HE HAD ANYTHING!

"And a new free Afghanistan! Terrorist's have 2 less countries 
to train in, and plot thier evil acts." Holy Shit! In all 
seriousness, that is probably the most ignorant sentance ever 
put on this board. If you think that America controls 
Afghanistan, you really need to get caught up. Warlords are in 
control, the Taliban is coming back, Al-qaeda camps are back. A 
free Afghanistan? Free to be ruled by Americans and Taliban.

I hate France because they supported the Saddam regime for years.

Now it's time for you to answer my question: Where are the 
WMD's? are you going to guess that they are in Lebannon? I want 
what Bush promised us; proof that Saddam was a threat. It would 
be a small step forward in getting me to supprt the Iraq War.

Oh, really? I guess I'm just ignorant. No, I've never heard 
of "Vietnam". It sounds serious. Geez, I'm glad you filled me in 
on it. (sarcasm anyone)

I was unaware that the Vietnam war occured "in the months before 
the 2000 election" per my question.

Iraq is nothing like Vietnam. Vietnam was a defensive war. Iraq 
is an offensive war.

Now that's the type of top ten list I like!!!
Going to visit the links you posted since I have the time.

So let me get this straight...you are comparing Iraq under 
Saddam to a hijacked airplane heading for a crowded building. 
That is one of the most ludacris things I have ever heard of.  
Please tell me what offensive military actions Saddam was 
taking. I know that he was not disarming, I'll save you a step 
cause I know thats what you'll say. But in order for him to 
disarm, he has to have something to disarm. WE WERE NEVER SURE 
HE HAD ANYTHING!
-----------------------------------

In measuring the link between Al-Quaeda, or terrorism in 
general, and Saddam's Regime is what I was talking about, I 
forgot how clear you need it explained!
30 other countries I suppose just on a whim decided hell we 
havent had a good brawl in a while lets go to Iraq just because 
the US is. Give me a break!
In other words, do you need a plane to come crashing right down 
your block, land just before your front door, with you visualy 
seeing Saddam Hussein piloting the plane himself, for you to 
believe that he was sponsoring, had everything to do with, gave 
money and supplies to terrorists that threatened the security 
of this country? 
Jesus Christ! He admitted he had them in 1998! What more do you 
want? We just wanted, and the world just wanted to make sure he 
destroyed the shit. 
Even if he admitted TODAY on National TV, that he was lobing a 
nuke our way, you anti-war types would swear to God we put a 
gun to his head!
But then again according to Iraq's Minister of Information (You 
have to remember him, he was the one who said we werent in the 
Country, when we were actually down the block) WE ARENT THERE 
ANYWAY! So there is nothing to worry about! Pffft!

"And a new free Afghanistan! Terrorist's have 2 less countries 
to train in, and plot thier evil acts." Holy Shit! In all 
seriousness, that is probably the most ignorant sentance ever 
put on this board. If you think that America controls 
Afghanistan, you really need to get caught up. Warlords are in 
control, the Taliban is coming back, Al-qaeda camps are back. A 
free Afghanistan? Free to be ruled by Americans and Taliban.
------------------------------------

You cant be serious! Can you? Where the hell are you getting 
your information from? 

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/central/09/08/afghanistan.1
/index.html

http://rawa.fancymarketing.net/warlords.htm

http://www.goasiapacific.com/news/GoAsiaPacificBNA_838215.htm

http://www.e-
ariana.com/ariana/eariana.nsf/0/4E33B45B49A4B40587256CBF0054782A

Where are you getting your information from?

Saddam also more recently, before the war, said he DIDN'T have 
them. I know he's contradictory. But apparently you think its 
okay to take this lunatic's word? come on! He and his 
administration has said a lot of bullshit. I don't understand 
how you can believe him just because he says so.

No I believe that he had them because he used them on his own 
people! These newspapers and 24/7 news seem to have forgotten 
that! And the fact that he gave no evidence as to where he 
destroyed them.

Here is something that might interest you!


http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/00
2/628wqxma.asp

Here are some interesting links tying Iraq and al Qaida.

http://www.geocities.com/republican_strategist//Iraq-Bin-
Laden.html 

http://www.meib.org/articles/0106_ir1.htm 

http://www.washingtondispatch.com/cgi-
bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/16/32 

http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/10/16/94556 

http://www.judicialwatch.org/cases/78/Wtccomp.htm 

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/3/18/74151.shtml 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,630183,00.html 

http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2003/2/5/135346 

http://www.iraqfoundation.org/news/2001/joctober/16_paper.html 

http://usinfo.state.gov/regional/nea/iraq/press/0418irqtr.htm 


http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/10/6/102835 

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30867 

http://www.geocities.com/republican_strategist//Iraq-OKC-
bombing.html 

WASHINGTON, Sept. 23, 2003   Thanks to efforts by U.S. and
coalition forces, electrical services in Iraq will be at
prewar levels within a month, Ambassador L. Paul Bremer
told members of the Senate Appropriations Committee Sept.
22.

Bremer, who was on Capitol Hill urging Congress to support
the president's $87 billion supplemental budget request,
spoke about the success America and its coalition partners
are seeing in post-Saddam Hussein Iraq.

"All of Iraq's 240 hospitals and 90 percent of its health
clinics are open today," he said. "There is adequate food
and there is no sign of epidemic. We have cleared thousands
of miles of irrigation canals so that farmers in these
areas have more water than they've had in a generation."

According to Bremer, most of the work has been done by the
Iraqis and often financed by the Coalition Provisional
Authority.

Speaking optimistically about the future of Iraq, Bremer
said a group of local restaurateurs presented a petition to
him last week that asked to have the curfew in Baghdad
extended from 11 p.m. to midnight because "business is so
good."

"But I would not hide from you the fact that it is a
difficult environment. There are, after all, significant
dangers," Bremer said. "But it is considerably better than
it was a couple of weeks   a couple of months ago."

Bremer equated what is now occurring in Iraq to the post
World War II Marshall Plan. But then, the United States
waited three years after the end of the war to help rebuild
war-torn Europe.

"Iraqis, living in freedom with dignity, will set an
example in this troubled region which so often spawns
terrorism," Bremer said. "A stable, peaceful, economically
productive Iraq will serve America's interest by making
America safer."

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

The NAZI's thought they'd last a thousand years.

They lasted less than 15

The USSR thought their superior economic and political policies
would make them last eternal

They lasted about 70 years

The British had half the world under her empire. They thought
they'd last forever.

They've been nobodys for the last 100 years

AMERICA WILL COME DOWN. TIME WILL WEAR YOU DOWN.

AMERICA WILL FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE INEVITABLE

AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD REJOICES

By Staff Sgt. Stephen Hudson, ANG
Special to American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, Sept. 24, 2003   Nasreen M. S. Berwari is thankful 
the 
United
States led the effort to free her country from one of the most 
brutal
governments in history.

Berwari is Iraq's newly appointed public works minister. The 
only 
female member
of Iraq's new cabinet of 25 ministers heads a department of 
about 
45,000
people.

The graduate of the John F. Kennedy School of Government at 
Harvard 
University
with a degree in public policy and management has a Herculean 
task 
ahead of
her: helping her homeland recover from what she describes 
as "35 years 
of
neglect and bad management."

Three weeks after taking office, Berwari traveled to the United 
States 
seeking
continued support from Congress for rebuilding Iraq. She took a 
few 
minutes
between meetings in Washington to reflect on the changes her 
country 
faces and
to thank the American people who have   in her eyes   done so 
much for 
Iraq.

"I would like to give tribute to the lives that have been 
lost," she 
said. "We
are very grateful.

During the torturous years under Saddam Hussein, Berwari said, 
3 
million Iraqis
were displaced for seeking a better form of government. In the 
village 
of
Halabja, Saddam's regime used chemical weapons to kill 5,000 
Iraqis. 
The
dictator led the Iraqi people into three wars, one with Iran 
and two 
with the
United States and its coalition partners.

Berwari said the more than 100 unearthed mass graves sites 
expose the 
regime's
brutality. "If the people cannot see it in the first mass 
grave, then I 
am sure
that by the second and third they will realize the atrocities," 
she 
said.

The challenges the minister faces in her work are "daunting," 
she said. 
"We
need and seek support."

"Without (the United States') help, we cannot move ahead," she 
said. 
"The
investment that was made during the war in changing the regime 
may be 
lost if
we do not now invest in the reconstruction process."

America's continued investment, she said, "will be put in good 
hands 
and will
make Iraq stand on its feet by the end of 2004."

"Iraq is a country of resources," she said. "We are rich with 
oil and 
water,
but above all, (with) human resources. We are passing through a 
critical time,
but we will go through it with help from the United States."

Berwari foresees Iraq becoming a center of economic prosperity. 
She 
hopes Iraq
will become a world leader upholding the ideals of peace.

With America's continued support, she said, Iraq will become a 
stable, 
secure
nation, free of tyranny, a country that will not serve as a 
haven for
terrorists.

"It's only with wise and committed leadership," she said, "that 
good 
things can
happen in the world."

(Air National Guardsman Staff Sgt. Stephen Hudson is assigned to
DefendAmerica.)

The United States is the freest nation on earth. U.S. citizens do 
not try to cross illegally into Mexico or Canada, although the 
opposite is true. People from all over the world want to come 
here, because they want to have the freedoms that God willed for 
all people. In countries such as Cuba and China, and in the 
emerging E.U., their governments want to be "god" to their 
citizens. In America, individual liberty is not to be denied. 
"Travellers" are aware of this fact, and so they want to attack 
anyone who favors individual freedom. 

The American Communist Party, the Green Party, the radical fringe 
of the Democratic Party, the ACLU, La Raza, NOW, etc., will 
ultimately fail.  

Damn right they are going to fail! There is no American 
Communist Party, I think you are mistaken!
Democrats are at thier last stand (So to speak) And 57% of the 
American people are beginning NOT TO CARE what is printed in 
the tabloids, and are cleary seeing what a bunch of low-life 
backstabbers the Democrats have turned out to be!!!!  OOps, I 
mean the Democtratic Party! Home security is the most importamt 
issue at the moment, and they are doing a damn fine job!!!!

You should put a pillow between your head and the headboard.

Have you had headboard envy for along time, or is this a new 
development?        

George Bush is a joke and a liar. When are we ever going to leave
Iraq? And how can we defend our borders when all our soldiers are
in some shithole Arab country that we shouldn't be in the first
place? What are they doing? Making more terrorists because
they've pissed off even more Middle Eastern people.

i hope all the towelheaded goat asshole fucken pigs get pissed 
off so we can NUKE all the A R A B motherfuckers and melt the 
filthy stinky wipe ass with hand pig shit motherfuckers into the 
sand.

I hope you make a home made bomb, drop it on your foot, and kill
yourself, troll. Make a home-made nuke and blow up your city, so
we can get rid of people like you from the gene pool, geek.

Still no sign of these weapons of mass destruction??? Recently, 
as many people would have also heard, there was a report over a 
2 & a half month period (?) declaring no significant proof of 
these "so called" weapons of mass destruction. Of coarse Donald 
Rumsfield denied it using the excuse that not enough time was 
given. 
Why can't it just be admitted that there are no weapons of mass 
desruction to be found.
On the news recently it was reported that scientists (& people 
responible for these so called weapons....) admitted that they 
often lied about making these weapons during the time when they 
were supposedly made.
So no weapons of destruction, only a war in which lives were & 
still are being taken & a country in anarchy and economic 
turmoil. Whoa!, what an achievement that has been!!!
Another Afganistan in the making!!! One way of breeding the 
terrorists!!!

Sara.

WASHINGTON   After maintaining a low profile while his chief 
inspector fielded questions, President Bush came out swinging 
Friday, saying David Kay's (search) interim report demonstrates 
that the war against Iraq was just and necessary.

  
"The report states that Saddam Hussein's regime had a 
clandestine network of biological laboratories, a live strain 
of deadly agent botulinum (search), sophisticated concealment 
efforts and advanced design work on prohibited longer-range 
missiles," Bush said while standing in front of Marine One 
before leaving for Milwaukee to attend a fund-raiser and 
deliver a speech expected to tout new job numbers. The strain 
of botulinum had been stored in a vial kept for safekeeping in 
an Iraqi scientist's refrigerator since 1993. 

"These findings already make clear that Saddam Hussein actively 
deceived the international community, that Saddam Hussein, was 
in clear violation of United Nations Security Council 
Resolution 1441 and that Saddam Hussein was a danger to the 
world," he said. 

U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441, which threatened Iraq 
with "serious consequences" if it failed to show it had ended 
its WMD program, was used by the coalition as a basis for 
invading the country last March. 

Kay, a CIA adviser and head of the Iraq Survey Group, was on 
Capitol Hill for a second day of testimony Friday in front of 
the Senate Armed Services Committee (search). He also met with 
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., one of the 
president's critics who has questioned whether the intelligence 
used to justify war was accurate. 

We have been in Iraq all of what 6 months? Dont you think we 
should give them a bit more time since we have only examined 
half the country for them? I mean this has only been the hugest 
military victory in history! It's a country the size of 
California, and it looks like we have only examined it to about 
the size of central California. Shouldnt we go all the way to 
Northern California? (In Iraq vs.)
If you read the success in Iraq you will find they are not in 
turmoil, they are buying cars like crazy, (Which under Saddam's 
regime you had to wait 20 years to buy a car), stores are open, 
electricity is back on, the kids went back to school this week, 
and the Iraqi's LOVE having us there! I'm slightly worried that 
the Iraqi people are so taken with us they will have a hard 
time letting go, when it is time to go. As for the terrorists 
that have gathered there which we have them contained to a 
triangle area, and are hunting them down every day, it's better 
to fight them there than here dont you think? Even if the 
weapons were moved, or destroyed before we got there (Which I 
doubt seeing as every Iraqi camp we came accross had gas masks 
left behind) we have still destroyed one big ass terrorist 
haven. Every country agreed on UN resolution 1441, they ALL 
knew they had them. They just werent in a rush to go in there 
and destroy that regime before it was to late. Well we and 30 
other countries arent going to wait till its to late again. If 
we have already found the capability to disburse and 
manufacture these weapons, chances are there are weapons there 
somewhere that were going to be disbursed and manufactured. 
Dont forget that infamous "Red Line" that Saddam said if we 
crossed he was going to unleash that crap on our troops. He 
never had the chance to. They have so far found he had the 
capability, now it's just the hunt for where they are! And 
those terrorists that are firing at our troops are being dealt 
with as we type. It's just a matter of time before that whole 
mess comes to an end. And I think I will wait till the final 
report is out, and give the inspectors more time. It has only 
been 6 months for Petes sake.

Ever heard of the muslim takeover of jerusalem in 638? the 
battle of Hastings? The Normandy Invasion? There have been alot 
more important and impacting victories in the history of the 
world than "Pampered idiot" Bush invading a country whose 
military was in ruins only to find that his primary 
justification for war is gone.

If things are so great in Baghdad, then perhaps you can explain 
this fact. In september, on the NBC nightly news, it was 
reported that 611 people were murdered in baghdad in the past 
month; the highest murder rate in the world. This is not 
terrorism, this is just flat out murder of people due to the 
lawlessness which came with American victory.

It may be better for us to fight them off there than here, but 
not in the world community's eye. More civilians have been 
killed in the Afghanistan and Iraq wars that the attacks of 
9/11. This tells people that Americans view themselves as 
superior. Is this the image we want to be sending? our reputaion 
is bad enough, we dont need to go around fighting wars in which 
we kill innocent people. Even if those deaths are accidents, 
they still have bearing. 

6 months is plenty of time to find "25,000 liters of anthrax, 
38000 liters botulinum toxin, 500 tons of sarin, mustard, and VX 
nerve agent, and 29984 munitions capable of delivering chemical 
agents" Thats alot of shit. They are working theyre asses off 
looking...but nothing seems to be there.

Maybe so, but you have to realize that I can't always post right 
away, as I usually have my head up my ass.

WASHINGTON, Oct. 5, 2003   The man leading the search for
weapons of mass destruction in Iraq expressed surprise here
today that media reports focused mainly on what his team
has yet to find and not on what it has turned up so far
after his Oct. 2 interim report to Congress.

David Kay, chief U.S. arms inspector, told host Tony Snow
on the "Fox News Sunday" that while his team indeed has yet
to find illicit weapons, "I'm sort of amazed that what was
powerful information about both (the former Iraqi regime's)
intent and their actual activities that were not known and
were hidden from (United Nations) inspectors seems not to
have made it to the press.

"This is information (that), if it had been available last
year, would have been headline news," Kay noted.

He said the inspection team has found, and is still
finding, more than two dozen hidden laboratories belonging
to the Iraqi intelligence service, Mukhabarat, that weren't
declared to the United Nations, had prohibited equipment
and carried on activities that should have been declared.

"At the minimum," Kay continued, "they kept alive Iraq's
capability to produce both biological and chemical weapons.
We found assassination tools. So we know that, in fact,
they had a prohibited intent to them."

Kay told Snow of an Iraqi scientist who, in 1983, hid
active strains of botulina toxin, one of the most toxic
elements known, in his refrigerator, and was also asked to
hide anthrax, which he deemed "too dangerous" and turned
back after a few days because he had 12 children in his
house.

"We now have three cases in which scientists have come
forward with equipment, technology, diagrams, documents,
and   in this case   actual weapons material   that they
were told to hide and that the U.N. didn't find," Kay said.
He added the inspection team actively is searching for at
least one more cache of strains known to exist.

Kay said he's most surprised at the lack of media attention
to his report's findings on evidence of Iraqi research on
four new biological-capable agents, research he said should
have been reported to the United Nations, but was not.

"This continued right up to 2003 in these four cases  
unreported, undiscovered," Kay said.

The chief weapons inspector said Iraq's missile program is
most significant among the "dozens of cases" of
capabilities Iraq hid from U.N. inspectors.

"We're talking about activity on four different fronts that
would have provided missiles capable of exceeding the U.N.
limit of 150 kilometers," he said.

Kay, who told reporters Oct. 2 that he expects his team's
work to yield more findings for at least another six to
nine months, said his team has identified 130 ammunition
storage points "of significant size" in its three months of
work so far, some larger than 50 square kilometers. He said
the sites contained an estimated 600,000 to 650,000 tons of
arms   about one-third the ammunition stockpile of the much
larger U.S. military.

Along with temperatures ranging from 130 to 150 degrees and
the size and number of sites requiring methodical
inspection, the weapons storage practices of Saddam's
regime make his team's work difficult, Kay said.

"The Iraqis have told us, and we learned in 1991, that they
had the habit of storing their chemical munitions right in
a mix with the standard conventional armaments," Kay said.
"And they also tended not to mark them, so you really have
to examine each one."

Kay said "yet" is the operative word in his team's search
results so far to find actual chemical weapons. "We have
Iraqi generals telling us that they had them," he said.
"Unfortunately, they're not able to tell us where they are
now, and that's why we're looking so hard."

Evidence the team has gathered so far indicates Iraq's
nuclear weapons program was at a very early stage, Kay
said, but he emphasized the team has not finished its
examination of that area.

Kay said the head of Saddam's arms industry has told the
inspection team that he believes the dictator, weary of
U.N. restrictions in 2000, was ready to restart the nuclear
program. "The one piece of evidence that confirms that is
in the missile area," he said, which restarted that year.

Calling Iraq's rocket propellant program one he's
"surprised no one has picked up on," Kay said Iraqis are
telling the team they continued to be capable of mixing and
preparing scud missile fuel as late as 2001 or 2002.

"Scud missile fuel is only useful in scud missiles   no
other class of missiles that Iraq has," Kay said. "And yet,
Iraq declared that it got rid of all its scud missiles in
the early 1990s. Why would you continue to produce scud
missile fuel if you didn't have scuds?"

The inspection team has reports of convoys moving from Iraq
into Syria in the weeks before the war, Kay said, and has
specific evidence on dates, times and routes. "The
difficulty we have," he said, "is proving what was in the
convoys."

Kay said the team continues to study illegal and dual-use
technology trade with Iraq. "The equipment that we're after
and the information we have relates to things that were
clearly illegal to sell to Iraq," he said. "This is illegal
procurement; it's not something that could have other uses.
They shouldn't have had it."

The idea of turning the weapons search back over to the
United Nations "just doesn't hold any credibility," Kay
said. He pointed out the international body has pulled
"essentially all of its staff" out of Iraq because of two
explosions. Citing four attacks on inspection teams in
September that injured four people seriously, he said he
and every member of his team on the ground in Iraq are
weapons-qualified and routinely carry weapons.

"We operate in a very nonpermissive environment. That's not
what the U.N. does," he said. "As a U.N. inspector, I never
carried a weapon, and we never operated in this type of
environment".

that was not marie above this 

I'm astounded that you are so misguided! Important and 
Impacting victories? I guess the fact that we are putting an 
end to terrorism as we know it isnt important or impacting! And 
the "Nightly News" isnt reporting any of the good things 
happening in Iraq, if there were 611 killed in Baghdad alone 
they sure werent killed by our Soldiers, and what did everyone 
expect till the coalition got an Iraqi police force trained and 
on the job? With more being trained as we speak. The "World 
Community" doesnt have a right to have one fucking word to say 
about a battle that they knew we were going to fight, win, and 
not quit till its finished. Since they had no input on the 
situation, did nothing to help, and think they have a right to 
say anything about it now! The only countries with ANY input 
into this situation are the 32 countries involved in the 
liberation, and who have made a differance, believed in ending 
terrorism, and are playing a substantial role in eliminating it.
I doubt seriously (Contrary to what you are reading and or 
hearing) "The World Opinion" isnt that we are superior! The 
message we are, and wanting to send is WE ARE PISSED!!! And we 
are NOT going to take terrorism anymore no matter who likes it 
and who doesnt! If Bill Clinton, oh hell the entire Democratic 
party had done ANYTHING about terrorism, except drop a few 
bombs here and there, we wouldnt have had a 9-11!!! After the 
USS Cole bombing, what did President Clinton do? NOTHING!!! 
When he had a chance to get Bin Hidin, what did he do? 
NOTHING!! We are tired of the bullshit. With Saddam kicking the 
weapons inspectors out in 1998 (Again with Clinton doing 
nothing) he had plenty of time to get rid of, and/or/ destroy 
the Anthrax, Sarin, Mustard, and whatever the fuck else he had. 
So I dont think for one minute 6 months is enough time to find 
a god damn thing! Especially if it was moved to SYRIA!!! I find 
it a shame you seem to be a reasonably intelligent person that 
you would believe all the negative propaganda, and none of the 
posatives going on in Iraq. In a year from now you will see the 
entire situation has turned around, even though the Iraqi's 
love us being there now, things will be on the right track, 
they will have thier own government, and sure as hell you know 
we will be keeping an eye on them. I dont want terrorism 
anymore do you? Just what the hell did people think Bush meant 
when he addressed the nation after 9-11 and said: "Anyone who 
wears the Uniform Get Ready", and at the time the entire Nation 
was behind him? All the Democrats and Republicans alike were 
singing the National Anthem together, showing party and country 
unity alike, its a damn shame that during an election year the 
democrats will stup to anything to get thier party in and all 
the unity has gone straight out the window. And they take every 
opportunity to bash our President AT WAR TIME No Less!! If it 
werent for the brave soldiers of the past we wouldnt be here 
right now! And if it wasnt for the brave soldiers of today we 
wont be here tomorrow!!

Clinton bombed Baghdad in 1998 after weapons inspectors were 
killed. You say Clinton and all democrats do nothing. Sorry, I 
really dont remember Bush warning us of an imminent attack when 
he took office. I also don't remember him going after any 
terrorists before 9/11. So according to your theory, he is just 
as guilty as Clinton. I dont remember Bush Sr. launching a war 
on terrorism when the WTC was bombed the first time. He couldnt 
have been bothered to even take out saddam during the first gulf 
war. You too seem to be an intelligent person, but you have 
terrible bias; all republicans=good, democrats=bad. What is 
that?!

"In a year from now you will see the entire situation has turned 
around, even though the Iraqi's love us being there now, things 
will be on the right track, they will have thier own government" 
I laugh my ass off every time I see a statement like this. That 
is the exact same thing people were saying about Afghanistan. 
Afghanistan has no doubt made progress, but only in Kabul. The 
world has backed out of the promises made to Afghanistan. 

You want to talk about propaganda? Look at transcripts of Bush 
and Blair speeches before the war. Blair claimed that saddam 
could have chemical weapons launched within 45 minutes of his 
order. Bush said "The British government has learned that Saddam 
Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from 
Africa" this was later admitted to be false. The state 
department sadi it should have been omitted.

Could you please provide me with some information regarding your 
theory that Saddam's WMD's are in Syria? Some satellite 
pictures? some proof of any form? It seems that you and Om/Cf 
really support that theory, but I dont understand what you are 
basing it on.

Ok well for one thing when the World Trade Center was bombed 
the first time, In 1993, CLINTON was in office! That explains 
why there was NOTHING done! A few bombings here and there do 
NOT solve the terrorist problem! They are used to that shit, 
and think that will be our only response!!!! And again when the 
USS Cole was bombed, what was done? NOTHING!!! WE didnt even 
bomb a damn thing over that one! If the intelligence was 
correct which it probably was like in WW2 when The Admiral of 
the Navy 3 months in advance thought Pearl Harbor was a good 
target for the Japanese to bomb, which they did on 12-7-41, had 
people listened to the people who KNEW what THEY would do if 
they were in that circumstance, maybe things would have gone 
differently in both wars!!! So in essence Clinton knew there 
was an immenent attack, and did NOTHING!! Passed it on to the 
NEW President and said "Oh fuck this I'm to busy pokin Monica!"
And he (Bush) didnt have any authority to go after any 
terrorists before 9-11 not knowing for sure what the Clinton 
Administration didnt advise him of. It was only after 9-11 that 
our President "The Commander In Chief" KNEW for sure we were at 
war!!! Which being advised in advance would have made things 
alot easier! But just like Pearl Harbor, we were caught once 
again OFFGUARD!!! Well it isnt happening again my dear friend!!
I dont think ALL Democrats are "Bad", but the ones who are 
bashing our President "At War Time" are the bad ones! You dont 
knock our president nomatter if its Republican or Democrat 
while they are in office during Wartime!!! That I strongly 
disagree with because that gives the enemy a backbone 
and/or/stance!! To think for one minute the American people do 
not side with whichever President is in office during wartime, 
only gives the enemy more power!!! And to this day Bush and 
Blair still stand by thier statements that Saddam had weapons 
he was ready to launch in 45 minutes, that's because it was 
true. Om/Cf may have other intelligence that he is recieving 
but I am relying on the Iraqi that works next to me, and 
Israeli intelligence which happens to be some of the best in 
the entire world!!! I am refusing to believe that these two 
leaders of the most powerful Nations in the WORLD could have 
had intelligence that was so terribly wrong that they would 
wage an entire war on the pretext that Saddam MAY have had WMD 
instead of Having them for real!!! I mean come on, he kicked 
out the Weapons Inspectors in '98! That gave him How Long to 
move, hide, and/or/ destroy them? I just cannot believe that 
anyone would argue the point that we have prevented another 
terrorist haven, Since ALL the Democrats, and I might add some 
Republicans said "We didnt connect the dots soon enough" But 
did Doolittle? In WW2? Did Roosevelt? Hell NO!!! We were 
totally caught off guard in Pearl Harbor! We were totally 
caught off guard in 9-11 (Not because of intelligence that 
time, but lack of spoken fact) And intelligence that wasnt 
proven to be accurate!! FUCK ACCURATE! If it seems to us that 
we are going to be attacked once again by an immenent threat, 
no matter how credible the intelligence is, I say we solve the 
situation before we dont have to connect the dots before they 
strike us again!!!! And I know alot of people disagree with 
this point of view, but its the only logical thing I see, and 
alot of the Intelligence world combined!!! If I am wrong then I 
guess 32 other countries that dont have a money interest in the 
OLD regime in Iraq feel the same way, and have our backs!!! 
What sickens me is the fact that the ones who did have a money 
interest in Iraq chicken shitted out, after we helped them 
acheive success in thier Countries being FREE!!!!!! And have 
NEVER been repaid for the rebuilding of, and stabilazation of 
thier countries after WW2!!! THEY OWE US! And by God one way or 
another we are so going to collect!!! I know its an awful thing 
to concieve, but we are going to win this war on terrorism 
because WE FUCKING CAN!!!! And we are FUCKING GOING TO!!!!! And 
if Bush isnt elected President next time, I hope whoever is, 
follows the same direction as our Commander In Cheif by taking 
the War to them, wrather than fighting it here!!!! So there 
will never be another Pearl Harbor, or a 9-11!!!!!! 

Shit, your right about the first WTC bombing. I don't know what 
I was thinking...probably just trying to give examples of how 
republicans don't always do the right thing. I just messed up on 
the timings. Sorry.

"You dont knock our president nomatter if its Republican or 
Democrat while they are in office during Wartime!!!" well, 
usually I would agree with you. However, this was a war which 
Bush pushed for. He knew there would be opposition. The U.N. 
didn't back it. Millions of Americans did not back it.  Millions 
of Arabs did not back it. Bush and his supporters should not be 
surprised that the opposition continues. We who opposed the war 
now have more fuel: terrorism in Iraq, American soldiers killed 
pretty much every week, No WMD's (only theories about what 
happened to them & other bullshit like chemical suits. Sorry, 
but a suit isn't a WMD, I need to see the hard evidence.), a 
huge bill for the war, no exit strategy, and frequent protests 
by Iraqis who view America as an invader not liberator.

Was the Iraqi who works next to you working for Saddam's 
government during the war? If not, then why does his word mean 
more than yours or mine? Everyone is just taking guesses. Just 
because your co-worker is from Iraq doesn't mean he has the 
answers to the tough questions that are being asked by us 
skeptics.

I don't see how following the path we are on will win the war on 
terrorism. Bush, with all the balls he has, hasn't gone after 
the really big fishes. Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran. I remember 
him saying we would go after all countries who harbor 
terrorists. Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan have more terrorists in 
them than Iraq did. We cant seem to go after Pakistan because 
bush has to support Musharraf. Otherwise, democracy might 
actually occur in Pakistan. Instead there is a military regime 
in Pakistan. Funny how America, beacon for democracy, has to 
prevent the Pakistanis from obtaining democracy, otherwise they 
would actually speak their minds: DEATH TO AMERICA!

There is no doubt Bush has guts. I respect him for taking tough 
stances. I disagree with him though. The way to win the war on 
terrorism is not to piss off more people. We need to change it 
all around.

And he (Bush) didnt have any authority to go after any 
terrorists before 9-11 not knowing for sure what the Clinton 
Administration didnt advise him of.


You stupid fucking cunt.
Do you have even the slightest clue as to what presidential 
powers are? I can't believe that someone can be so fucking 
stupid, and remember to breathe.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, 
or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not 
only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the 
American public." - Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) 

Ok lets look at this another way lol...We are getting no where 
in our discussion! You see what you want and I see what I want, 
and I dont think either of us are going to budge. How about 
this outlook, doesnt it make sense (Since ALL the trouble) Is 
comming from the Middle East (Mainly) Wouldnt it be a good 
thing to put in place eyes and ears right in the heart of the 
matter? In every single mission we have been in, our soldiers 
have been shot at for quite a while after major combat ended. 
Nothing new. But did we leave? NO. We finished the job, with 
the exception of Viet Nam. But that's another story. I just 
truly believe there will be an end to this shit soon. And we 
will be able to get our hands on ANY terrorist organization 
(From that vantage point) In a shorter amount of time, and 
possibly do away with (Or at least Scare or Terrify)the shit 
out of, any one that poses a threat the the USA from that part 
of the world!! I hope we wind up in the long run putting the 
fear of GOD, Allah, or whatever the hell they are believing in 
that day, into even having the thought cross thier ruthless 
little minds, about attacking the United States again!!! 

From: 
To: Marie the most ignorant cunt alive 
Date: Fri Oct 17 11:28:24 2003 
Message:
And he (Bush) didnt have any authority to go after any 
terrorists before 9-11 not knowing for sure what the Clinton 
Administration didnt advise him of.


You stupid fucking cunt.
Do you have even the slightest clue as to what presidential 
powers are? I can't believe that someone can be so fucking 
stupid, and remember to breathe.
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Put the pipe down!! Moron. Who the hell are you to tell me what 
my opinion of ANYTHING ought to be??? Ignorant son of a bitch!!
Fuck YOU Dickhead.

To those who hate America, I say the time for talking is over. 
We're not taking your shit anymore. Islam and 
communists/socialists need to understand that you don't come into 
my town and talk your anti-American shit, and then think that you 
can hide behind the law. People are going to start kicking your 
asses if you keep pulling that shit. Haters of America, shut the 
fuck up or get the fuck out of this nation.    

I agree with you very much regarding your statement that this is 
going nowhere! Your opinions, though I disagree with them, I 
have respect for.  It seems like everybody is pussyfooting 
around important issues. I'm glad that I can get the viewpoint 
of someone who has steadfast opinions which differ from mine.

I also agree that we should pay more attention to the Israeli-
Palestinian issue. Since 9/11, I have thought the radicals hate 
America for the support our government gives to Israel. I also 
believe they hate our religion and culture, though.

That region is in such a mess, though. It is hard for me to 
envision peace coming without huge deals being made. Neither 
side seems to view human life as more sacred than the land, 
though. 

Out of curiosity, what do you think of my stance on Pakistan
(which I explained in my last post)?

From: 
To: Marie the most ignorant cunt alive 
Date: Fri Oct 17 11:28:24 2003 
Message:
And he (Bush) didnt have any authority to go after any 
terrorists before 9-11 not knowing for sure what the Clinton 
Administration didnt advise him of.


You stupid fucking cunt.
Do you have even the slightest clue as to what presidential 
powers are? I can't believe that someone can be so fucking 
stupid, and remember to breathe.
----------------------------------------

Put the pipe down!! Moron. Who the hell are you to tell me what 
my opinion of ANYTHING ought to be??? Ignorant son of a bitch!!
Fuck YOU Dickhead.

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I wasn't talking about OPINIONS Marie, I was talking about 
REALITY, a subject that your skanky stupid ass knows NOTHING 
about!

To those who hate America, I say the time for talking is over. 
We're not taking your shit anymore. Islam and 
communists/socialists need to understand that you don't come 
into 
my town and talk your anti-American shit, and then think that 
you 
can hide behind the law. People are going to start kicking your 
asses if you keep pulling that shit. Haters of America, shut the 
fuck up or get the fuck out of this nation.
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America is a piece of shit! Its leaders are all crooks and 
liars, its women are famous for being the biggest whores on the 
planet, its children are the most uneducated on the planet; 
often dissappointed in themselves if they haven't been molested 
by the age of 10, and the men are all sissy-assed pussys who 
make idle threats, and NEVER BACK THEM UP! 
Maybe if your cunt whore mother wasn't pulling down her pants 
for every Muslim in sight she would've had time to teach you 
about being a man(or about being another cross-dressing american 
cunt!)





America is a piece of shit!  

Well I value your opinion also, even if I dont agree with it. 
It gives me insight into what I might not be thinking of, or 
covering in my own mind on those issues!!! As far as the 
Israeli/Palestinian issue, sometimes I think the terrorists use 
that as a guise!!! They claim to care, but in reality it's an 
excuse to do whatever it is they want to do. They use that as 
an excuse! But I do think however if Arafat wasnt in power 
somehow in Palestine, there would actually be a Country called 
Palestine!!! All the suicide bombers do is lend creadence to 
the fact that they are no better than any other terrorist 
organization that wants to have anything accomplished or 
acheieved in a civilized world. However I dont think they 
actually understand that! With Saddam paying them what was it? 
Uh 25,000$ For every attack? It gave them insentive to go DO 
IT!!! $25,000 is alot of money in that part of the world. And 
what else do they know? It seems like alot of these countries 
need to be taught how to be civilized human being's, in a world 
where it's the 21st century and we are trying to drag some of 
them into the 19-20th century!!!! And NO I dont totally agree 
with some of the tactics of the Israeli people, what else are 
they going to do? They HAVE advanced into the 21st Century, 
while the Palestinians havent had the chance to! But if they 
would listen to what some of thier Muslim leaders say, they may 
get the chance to be civilized. I know they know what all they 
are doing is wrong, yet they do it because they think they are 
going to get attention, well they got it. Now they have to stop 
being assholes and act like decent humans and the rest of the 
world will listen!!! Peace is only going to be acheieved by 
peaceful means. I scrolled, I didnt see your piece on 
Israel/Palestine!!!!

,!,,

To everyone who puts muslums down is really hiding an insecurity 
with their own religon or lack there of.  What ever happened to 
respect for a fellow man.  What ever happened to FREEDOM OF 
RELIGION...  Muslums are being categorized and persecuted for 
the actions of twenty some social misfits who deserve to die for 
their inhumane crimes.  Not all muslums are violent or a part of 
an Anti-American organization.  I am not muslum but i sympathize 
with the innocent. 

,!,,                   ,!,,               

...twenty some social misfits...

Your lowballing the numbers just a bit. Did you run out of 
fingers and toes?

...twenty some social misfits...

Your lowballing the numbers just a bit. Did you forget about the 
280 million in the U.S. alone?

"Your" should be "You're". I'm a little dissapointed, as a 
teacher, you didn't correct my mistake.

There are NOT 280 million brainwashed Islamic death cultists in 
the United States.

I never said there were. But there ARE 280 million potential 
targets! And THAT IS BEAUTIFUL!

"Your" should be "You're". I'm a little dissapointed, as a 
teacher, you didn't correct my mistake.

The only reason to correct someone is to help them to alter 
future behaviour. And, as we all know, it does not do much to 
alter behaviour in monkeys. And you, having been quite the 
chimp, have proven yourself unable to learn.

Catholic-Protestant killings in N. Ireland, Hindu-Sikh-Muslim
massacres in India, Orthodox-Catholic-Muslim horror in 
ugoslavia. Branch Davidian cult tragedy in Waco, Texas. 

Nevertheless 9/11, WTC tragedy in N.Y. Thousands or shall I say
millions have died over the years over such conflicts. All these
conflicts were caused by one common factor: RELIGION. The website
www.dictionary.com defines Religion as being norms, values, or a
way of life to an individual or community. A spiritual guide that
governs the way a person lives from day to day by giving that
person hope, belief, and reason to exist in this world. As world
renowned journalist James Haught said  Religion is supposed to be
a source of kindness and brotherhood, but it has become one of
the chief causes of hatred and war.  I couldn t agree with him
more, my position is simple and clear: Ban religion and live
better! By banning religion we will be able to end the never
ending wars and prevent others from starting.

War and religion have a long history together. In the Age of
Imperialism, when religious convictions were very strong, every
time a country would conquer another one it would enforce its
religion on the people. Resistance by the people was overpowered
by slaughter and bloodshed. Religion was immensely important and
therefore there was immense bloodshed. One example would be Mary
Queen of Scots, Mary s choices and even her execution were a
result of Catholic and Protestant conflict.

Banning religion will give us more freedom. For example, many
religions such as Islam, Hinduism, and Christianity are against
abortion, but we all know as Nuri has made clear abortion should
be legalized, it is part of our rights. Banning religion would
allow us to do so. Many women are reluctant to contraception
because their religion considers usage of contraception a sin.
Contraception is necessary in our world today for a number of
reasons. To be brief contraception will limit the spread of
deadly diseases such as AIDS. In addition, it would allow
population control which is very necessary in our world, which is
nearing a population explosion with a bleak future.

Similarly, homosexuality is considered a sin in many religions,
namely Christianity. If we have no religion we will liberate many
people who are afraid to admit their homosexuality in fear of
their religion. It would also give us the freedom to legalize
homosexual marriages, which should be a fundamental right of
every homosexual.

More importantly, banning religion would add in reducing the
racial tension, world wide. Many times people are judged by their
religion. If I don t have a religion I won t be judged for being
a Hindu. Many Muslims have felt the growth of racial tensions
after 9/11, with no religion they wouldn t need to be worried. If
religion were banned earlier, death of 6 million Jews could have
been prevented, which happened in the Second World War. What
more, we should learn from our mistakes.

Although I believe religion is of no use, one might say religion
provides trust, security, social order and most importantly a
moral code. I believe in all this but in doing so religion
further divides the people, as social order add to segregation
and discrimination. And how can you trust the church to provide
with you with security and give you a moral code when the church
itself is corrupt? One example to prove the corruptness of the
church would be in the 15th century when the enormous amount of
money that the church possessed was mismanaged by the Pope and a
few bishops and it led many working class people and poor people
to starve, which in return lead to the assassinations of many
political figures and religious leaders. In more recent times, an
example would be the sex scandal of last year, which revealed how
many leaders of churches were sexually exploiting young children.
How can millions and millions of people trust a church to provide
them with moral codes when the church leaders cannot even control
their sexual urges, committing sinful crimes?

Having no religion would boost people s self-esteem because one
would have to make the decision of right and wrong by themselves.
Religions is not useful in any positive way, it provokes and
promotes violence and bloodshed. Religion limits people s freedom
and independence. It fails to live up to its  duty of being a
spiritual guide that governs the way a person lives from day to
day by giving that person hope, belief, and reason to exist in
this world. If anything it guides people the wrong way! Banning
religion would allow us to be more complete, better people with a
more independent way of thinking. It would reduce tensions and
allow us to live better lives.

Did you help Karl Marx write the Communist Manifesto? The above 
is exactly what he wanted.  Civilization would not be where it 
is today without religion. If you can't admit that, then you are 
just ignorant.

You really think banning religion will solve hard topics like 
abortion? I oppose abortion(in most cases), but not because of 
any religious faith that tells me to. I just feel that denying 
someone the chance at life for your own convenience is the wrong 
way to go. "we all know as Nuri has made clear abortion should
be legalized" You think EVERYONE wants abortion? I guess I just 
proved you wrong, because I don't.

I totally agree with you when you say that "the church
itself is corrupt". Organized religion has done some fucked up 
shit. I do not agree with you when you say that it does no good.

How can you say that having no religion will give us more 
freedom? This is completely backwards from what common sense 
will tell you. Saying a person can't do something is obviosly a 
restriction to freedom.

If you want the crazy shit you talk about, maybe you should go 
off to an island and live a great communist life. I'd prefer to 
stay here in America and enjoy my 1st ammendment right.

Boo hoo hoo. Everyone who's an aethise is commie. Typical American.

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From: your master 
To: iraq 
Subject: STINKING TOWEL HEADS 
Date: Sun Nov 9 15:12:21 2003 
Message:
hack hack look whos back,theirs an arab in the place whos got no 
face hes lame hes dumb hes full of cum.Hes queer and he covets 
beer.hack hack hes screwing the camel who was his ride he likes 
to flea fuck this camel bride. hack hack this arabs wacked hes 
gay hes queer he lives too near....hes lame yes he is the one to 
blame. We will kill all arabs with our big big gun run arab run


We see a lot of talk in this post of homosexuals, and semen.
It is quite clear that these two subjects are the main things on 
your mind......why don't you just go out, and get yourself some 
cock, since it's more than clear that that's what you want and 
need?

It's the new millenium... It's okay to be gay.

Queers should be exterminated.

islam and all its followers should be exterminated.

americans WERE exterminated on 9/11, and more are being 
eliminated every day in Iraq. PRAISE ALLAH!

muslims bomb their own in Saudi Arabia and in a bombing attack 
on Jews in Turkey about half the dead were muslims, hehehe.

muslim on muslim terrorism is on the rise and that's a beautiful 
thing.

Pretty soon,the USA will be bringing home it's 500th body of 
some poor mother's son/daughter. How many more before GWB admits 
the stupid, reckless and unauthorised invasion of Iraq was a 
MONUMENTAL COCK-UP.

All the tough words, all the bullsh about weapons of mass 
destruction, about democracy (whilst supporting undemocratic 
Saudi Arabia) and the compehensive lack of planning about what 
the USA should do once the took Baghdad. I look forward to 
apologies from om/cf, Marie et al...you vilified me for 
predicting the current circumstances (predicting something will 
occur is not wishing it would).

GWB sends your youth to die whilst swanning around the world 
looking like a trained hampster. HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME YOU 
PRETEND CHRISTIANS.

om/cf and marie are exactly the type of people who allowed 
themselves to die on 9-11. Most of the victims could have saved 
themselves, except for the plain and simple fact that they were 
too fat and lazy to walk down some stairs.

I am not laughing at America, on the contrary any premature loss 
of human life is to be abhored! I am outraged at the US's 
behaviour, and by the loonies who blow themselves, and 
innocents, away on the basis of some cock-eyed superstision 
(Islam).

Violence can never be ended by violence - it becomes a self 
perpetuating cycle; endlessing cycling in spirals of madness.

Will humanity EVER grow up?

That's a beautiful story bon-bon!
Tell it in church this Sunday.....maybe they'll fall for your 
bullshit.

NEWSFLASH!

Slightly witty slogan in front of church converts atheist.

NEWSFLASH! Arabs annoy and threaten the U.S.A. by wearing head-
dress that does not look like cowboy hats.

The U.S. to invade the whole Arab nation looking for Weapons of 
Hats' destruction.

Animadversion to SOME Europeans for Their Reaction to 9/11.

My conclusion: "American jokes" have been popular in Europe for 
years. Tell jokes to young children, then reinforce them over 
the years many, many times. Eventually, such jokes will result 
in disregard and disrespect for Americans, particularly the 
President. They may contribute to a reluctance to fully support 
us. And, worst of all, perhaps they contribute to a tendency to 
hate and revile us, not unlike what radical Islamics teach 
deliberately.
_________________________________________

[Emails written within a few days of 9/11/2001. By then my site 
for made-up words had been bombarded with hate mail and anti-
American neologisms, much of it from Europe. The young woman to 
whom this email was sent had mentioned a few days prior to 9 11 
how Europeans were more or less compelled by duty to insult the 
American President--and to make up and pass along anti-
American "jokes." Typographical errors have been corrected here
_________________________________________

I just had a conversation with my wife and mentioned your email, 
the one in which you referred to the "duty of every European" to 
belittle, insult, and offend Americans and the American 
President with anti-American "jokes." 

Certainly not from you, but yes, indeed, a site as benign and 
non-political as mine for new words did get far too much "hate 
literature" from Europe last week. My wife thought Europeans 
must be proud of themselves for their anti-American sentiments, 
expressed with such cleverness combined with venom. Coming up 
with new words to celebrate the fact that "at last" there's a 
significant body count on American soil. For my eyes and her 
ears only, though, because I wielded the censor's pen.

When the bodies are finally counted, we'll perhaps be able to 
confirm that hundreds of European nationals died as well. The 
terrorists attacked the WORLD Trade Center, not just America. Do 
Europeans really just not get it? Sure, more Americans were 
killed than any others. It even reaches to Tulsa, Oklahoma, 
where we live, some 1,500 miles away. My son-in-law worked with 
Carr Futures, a brokerage company headquartered in the WTC. 
About a hundred died. I met eight of the men this past summer 
when they came here for the US Open golf tournament. My son-in-
law is an oil and gas futures trader and worked with these men 
by phone on an almost daily basis. Several trips were made in 
both directions. Much of the time was spent socializing, not 
just doing business in office buildings.

Told my wife how you will make derogatory comments *only* about 
the United States and its President, not about any other country 
or its leader. Not that you would "openly insult" Americans--
you'd just do so with your non-American friends. It's your duty, 
after all. (I suspect you may actually have no American friends? 
God willing, you haven't had to sink that low. Oh, I forgot, 
you're an agnostic.) That certainly made her feel better--
knowing that you'd only be comfortable insulting us behind our 
backs. She felt that that showed you knew the difference between 
right and wrong. (If I'm going to insult someone, and I do 
occasionally, I do it openly. And loudly. We Americans are *so* 
uncivilized. Yes, we're the uncivil ones. Ha!) Again, not that 
we got to see one of your own anti-American witticisms this past 
week. 

Curious, isn't it, how the only country and the only country 
whose leader you--and apparently Europeans in general from what 
I've seen--feel at ease to insult and offend is the United 
States and its President. Oh, little Israel gets its share. And 
not just because we're not next door to you either, am I right? 

I don't remember the exact quote, but isn't it something such 
as "If you prick me, will I not bleed?" If we're shot, do we not 
die? Do Europeans seriously think we thought we were 
invulnerable to attack--from terrorists or anyone else? I 
realize Europeans think Americans are unrelentingly stupid, but 
we do know when to come in out of the rain. We didn't just get 
off the turnip truck. So, we also know it's been mostly a matter 
of access and distance that's kept us relatively secure--yet 
we've remained the most open country in the world and have given 
up security for freedom. Why? Because that's who we are. "We are 
not Americans; America is us." 

Curious, too, that we Americans feel no compulsion to insult the 
Queen of England, its Prime Minister, or the corresponding 
personages of any other country. In the United States we have a 
slogan "Duty, Honor, Country." Note that it's "Duty" first. How 
it rankles me that you and your fellow Europeans feel it to be 
*your* Duty to disHonor *my* Country with anti-Americanisms--and 
that no other country will be the subject of your ridicule or 
your abuse.

Many Europeans must feel culturally, ethnically, and 
intellectually superior to Americans. After all, we're mongrels. 
We're just a mix. Not purebreds at all. We're not English, not 
Welsh, not Irish or German or French or Swiss or Italian.... 
When we speak American English, we don't sound as elegant as 
those who speak British English. We're too plainspoken to be 
Englishmen. Englishmen even sound as if they are intelligent! 
Everything a Frenchman says sounds romantic. The Germans sound 
as if they're in charge--even when they aren't. God, I'd be so 
pleased to see an American win a Nobel Prize in literature or 
economics or medicine or science one of these days. But we're 
only mongrels. Too backward and stupid to ever have such high 
hopes. And if we could only build a factory like the Germans or 
the Japanese! Theirs are all so bright and shining and new. 
Nearly all built in the last fifty-five years. Not at all like 
our old junky factories. And we have such a void of high fashion 
designers, a singular lack of haute couture--the clothes worn by 
so very, very many of your average Europeans. Oh, well, guess 
we'll just have to be satisfied with the low class Tommy 
Hilfiger and Ralph Lauren sort of stuff. Bet not many Europeans 
would consider wearing American-style or designed clothing.

It hasn't been televised and it probably won't be, but the words 
I see make me sense more than just an undercurrent of gloating 
from Europe--France and Italy in particular--at what occurred 
last week. A sort of comeuppance for Americans. "Well, they 
finally got theirs." My dear Europeans, it's not our fault that 
World War I and World War II were fought in your countries 
instead of ours--other than Pearl Harbor. It's not our fault 
that we have pretty well been free from terrorism in the past. 
It *is* our fault that we haven't done more to combat terrorism 
and to restrict travel and immigration to this country--but who 
really has very effectively stopped terrorism? Besides Israel. 
It may well also be our fault that those wars were won by "our 
side." Your country and my country. Particularly World War II. 

Funny how I tend to exclude the Germans. I don't know. Are 
Germans part of the European "in crowd" that thinks it's so 
amusing to be anti-American? They lost both wars--after our 
belated enty into each--but I'm not sure that they are as anti-
American as the "winners." Maybe they are more anti-American now 
than they were fifteen or twenty years ago--before the two 
Germanies were reunited--when they needed our help. The way the 
Germans were treated after World War I was determined mainly by 
their European neighbors. The way they were treated after World 
War II (principally through the Marshall Plan and its associated 
capital for Western Europe, some 200 billion dollars in current 
dollars) was determined in part by the United States--at least 
the way West Germany was treated was determined by the US. And 
therein lies your comfort.... (I thought I was going to write 
more in that sentence, but then realized that was the right 
place to stop.) Europeans know how generous we have been. Do 
they think we're bigheaded to think they might have lost the war 
without us? Is that why Europeans hate us so? I've been to 
Europe a couple of times, but I was still caught by surprise by 
the rancor this past week. Oh, it's pretty obvious to Americans 
why Europeans feel a *duty* to insult us. But I did ask you for 
your opinion. 

I'm certainly aware that you considered your use of the 
word "duty" ironic; however, there's something "Freudian 
slippish" about that choice of words. And much more than 
Freudian, perhaps, considering the vitriol I've seen recently. 
Don't even bother to disguise email and site addresses! I do 
think that choice was right--for Europeans do, indeed, seem to 
consider it their duty to insult us--and apparently to wish 
injury to us. How unlike the Americans of generations past who 
thought it was *our* duty to help save you from Hitler and his 
henchmen. And how unlike Europeans of generations past who 
thought of us as allies and brothers.

Me? I think Europeans are just damned lucky that Japan made the 
egregious mistake of bombing Pearl Harbor. It was Japan's 
Admiral Yammamoto who said, "I fear we have awakened a sleeping 
giant and sown the seeds of our own destruction." Either that 
or "... giant... and that it will destroy us" depending on the 
translation. We might not have gone to war in Europe had that 
not happened--or we might have entered too late. And what do 
Europeans think would have happened after World War II had we 
not stayed in Europe? Do they seriously think the Soviet Union 
would not have moved beyond East Germany? Oh, no, that's right--
once the Russians became part of the Soviet Union, they forgot 
the 19th century. They had no intention of dominating Europe. 

Churchill must have been wrong when he made his Iron Curtain 
speech--in Fulton, Missouri, USA, of all places. Bit of a 
mongrel himself, wasn't he? Was his mother American? Had to 
expect him to be wrong then, didn't we? He did have a nice 
voice, though. I really wish he were quoted as much as a "real 
purebred" Englishman. He'd have been so much greater had he 
been "purebred." Why, he might even have won a Nobel Prize if he 
hadn't been tainted by American blood. Still a bit of that Aryan-
style "snobbery" in Europe? Still a smidgen of anti-Semiticism? 
Asshole, upstart, uppity Americans! They got taught a thing or 
two, eh? Teach the Jews next.

I also reminded my wife of Arkansans' attitude towards Texans. 
We wouldn't bomb them and we wouldn't gloat if something bad 
happened to them, but it's not truly a friendly rivalry, either. 
There is real animosity--though there may be less now than forty 
or fifty years ago. The Texan stereotype of the blowhard is 
actually not that far off the mark, as far as I'm concerned. It 
occurs to me that Europeans may think Americans as a whole are 
like that Texas stereotype. Either that or the stereotype of the 
brash and loud New Yorker, with her own unique, superior "We're-
the-Big-Apple-the-rest-of-you-are-yokels-We-win-we-rub-it-in" 
attitude. Most Americans tolerate, but detest that attitude. 
Damn Yankees! (The baseball team, not the Union Army.)

America and Americans are neither of these. We may be simple 
folk, but we're the best friends Europeans ever had, have, or 
will ever have. God forbid that Europeans should remember or 
care about what happened in New York and Washington--the bombs 
from World War I on have been dropped outside the United States. 
And the Europeans did say "Thank you" fifty-five years ago. It's 
time for Europeans to forget the past and move on with their new 
European Union friends and keep on making those terribly, 
terribly amusing anti-American jokes--until they need each 
other's help. Somehow I think nationalism in Europe is not 
dead. "But, then, that's just my opinion."

The war to be fought with terrorists will be won in one of two 
ways. With ground troops or with nuclear weapons. We have a 
sufficiency of both. What's more, we have the will to use both, 
if necessary. Unlike the European countries, with the possible 
exception of England--I'm reasonably certain your Prime Minister 
has indicated on-the-ground support in hostile territory as 
well. Frankly, we don't really need *any* other soldiers, but we 
do appreciate England's lone willingness to "belly up to the 
bar." Switzerland? Ah, yes, neutral Switzerland where the money 
is. Neutral because they're "antiwar good guys"? Or neutral 
simply out of greed? Not from lack of courage, I'd bet. France? 
Italy? Well, fear of terrorist retaliation could well be a 
factor there. Or maybe that's where the strongest anti-American 
sentiment is.... 

Machiavellean

"VAE VICTIS! Woe to the vanquished." 
_________________________________________

Actually, I *am* an interesting person. But I am also one very, 
very angry person right now. It's *not* an ego trip; it *is* a 
tirade. 

You are mistaken if you think that tirade is directed towards 
you personally. Yes, I'm angry with Europeans in general. I 
think, for good reason. And, yes, it's an anger that needs 
focus. Focus will come with time. Right now, I remain in 
the "strike back" phase. You get included only because you are a 
part of the European community--and because you are the one who 
mentioned that Europeans feel a *duty* to make jokes about 
Americans. Considering yourself collateral damage probably won't 
do much to smooth your ruffled feathers, though. My anger was 
not directed at you. It was not. Please disabuse yourself of 
that mistaken notion. I do apologize for sounding like that. 

A bit of perspective, too, to give you an idea why I have taken 
such offense at the "little European anti-American 'jokes'" 
these new words represent. I happen to be bald. (Check BFO in 
the pseudodictionary if you haven't already.) A few years ago a 
fellow made what *he* thought was a funny remark to a bald 
business associate of mine. Further words ensued and the "joker" 
got knocked to the floor. One punch and it was over; he 
was "coldcocked," as his wife said to me later. The resulting 
criminal charge of assault and battery did substantial damage to 
my business. (Even though my associate was tried and found "not 
guilty by reason of self defense" for his pre-emptive strike, I 
lost thousands upon thousands of dollars because of my 
asscociation with him. About 10,000 to 12,000 dollars a year in 
pre-tax profits for several years now, because I never got all 
of the customers back.) At that point, I decided I would no 
longer take with good humor any bald joke coming from someone 
who was not bald. I realized after that particular incident that 
no one, other than another bald man, had *ever* told me a bald 
joke without intending, at least to some extent, to denigrate 
bald men generally--and to suggest his own hairy superiority to 
me specifically. A lot of men with hair seem to feel a *duty* to 
make jokes about bald men. Directly to bald men. Many jokes have 
a characteristic: "It's kind of like the envious kid in grade 
school who trashes the good kids--it's easier to run them down 
than it is to become like them. Plus, it gives you a higher 
opinion of yourself." Ah, yes, Kris Kristofferson"s song 
lyric: "Everyone needs someone to look down on."

Yes, I am angry 
about the continuing failure of Europeans to stand united with 
us and fight terrorism anywhere and any time, with all the force 
and resolve that can be brought to bear. So far, only England 
has come forward expressing any willingness whatsoever to fight 
as our allies on the ground. The other European countries 
say, "We stand with you, but we won't commit troops to ground 
fighting in other countries." Ludicrous. The terrorists are a 
formidable foe... and they are intent on our destruction. Yours, 
mine, the... entire... western... world's. The forays on New 
York and Washington are more than their announcing to us that 
their unholy war has begun in earnest. They were successful 
first attacks that are doing great damage throughout the world. 
Cliched, I know, but this will be nothing less than a war to 
save civilization as we know it. (See the postscript.) We *must* 
fight on the ground. We *must* give up more lives. There's no 
other realistic way to fight this newest war. Europeans have 
already shed a substantial amount of blood in the attacks; they 
will shed more blood whether or not they fight on foreign soil. 
The terrorists are everywhere. My son is a soldier; he will be 
in harm's way. Whether or not the Europeans ultimately fight on 
the ground or not, they need to be willing to go with us. In 
truth, few Europeans will have had the training needed to make 
them effective in the types of battles that will have to be 
fought. We need their *willingness* to do battle, nonetheless. 
A "peaceful response" is out of the question--that's for those 
who think like lemmings. 

Yes, I am angry
about the hateful, sick "new words" that have come in this past 
week. Words coined to express great joy in our grief. Words of 
glee. Of course you don't feel that way. And you're not the one 
who submitted the words. However, quite enough Europeans did. 
When I naively mentioned your "European duty" reference to my 
wife, she bristled. She *is* a mother with a son in danger. She 
clarified for me that attitudes like the one you referred to 
would tend to lead to the Europeans' current failure to fully 
commit themselves. She's right. Combine that with the number of 
neologisms that I have been able to confirm have European 
origins.... 

Yes, I am angry now. I have been unable to confirm the ethnicity 
of the submitters, but I have been able to match URLs to 
countries and to the associated email addresses and submitters. 
Not everyone used a Hotmail or similar generic type of address. 
For instance, unless you are extremely devious, I could now send 
email to you through your ISP. I don't intend to do so unless 
asked to, but I could.

I'm not angry with you, but you do have reason to be angry with 
me. Hope you get over it. 

Your call,

Machiavellean 
_________________________________________

PS. For a "cinema" reference, see _Rollover_. Life imitating art 
or art imitating life? _Rollover_ was shown on national 
televison here just a few hours before the attacks. I watched it 
in the redeye hours of 9/11/2001. _Rollover_ deals with a plot 
to destabilize the West's capitalist economy: The proletariat 
rises up. The plotters are from the Middle East. The plot 
succeeds and the world is driven into another great depression. 
The film closes with a fade to black on World Trade Center Two. 
A bizarre coincidence? I wonder. It's very hard to find 
_Rollover_ here. I've been able to find only one copy here in 
Tulsa, Oklahoma, a city of 550,000. You may have to find the 
book or go to IMDB.com or some other such site to find out 
anything about it. If _Rollover_ is readily available in 
Europe.... It's twenty years old and it's not that good a film. 
No reason for it to be popular enough to have many copies around-
-except that it might be very popular with the enemies of 
America, western civilization, and capitalism. 

If you can get beyond your own anger, you can help me, with the 
remotest of possibilities that you can help us all. Are you in 
London? Wherever you are, see if you can find _Rollover_ on 
video. Find out how easy it is to obtain it at video stores. It 
should be as simple as making twenty or thirty local telephone 
calls. Could be done in well under an hour. [Update: The fade to 
black in the final scene had been expunged from the copy I 
obtained. Interesting.]

By the way, the movie stars Jane Fonda and Kris Kristofferson, 
he of the "Everyone needs someone to look down on" lyrics. 
Americans... guess we give Europeans someone to look down on.

"VAE VICTIS! Woe to the vanquished."
_________________________________________

Paraphrasing Blaise Pascal, "I apoligise for this long letter. I 
didn't have time to write a short one." This one will be 
relatively short.

Tirade paragraph two starts "Clearly not from you," and goes on 
to mention hate submittals from Europeans. Nothing indicates 
that I thought you were at all happy about the events of 
September 11.

My inference: "American jokes" have been popular in Europe for 
years. Tell jokes to young children, then reinforce them over 
the years many, many times. Eventually, such jokes will result 
in disregard and disrespect for Americans, particularly the 
President. They may contribute to a reluctance to fully support 
us. And, worst of all, perhaps they contribute to a tendency to 
hate and revile us, not unlike what radical Islamics teach 
deliberately.

We have earned Europeans' regard; we have earned their support. 
We deserve no less than their full support in this new war. We 
might be economic and military giants, but we are humans, too.

In comedy, timing is everything. Your jest just came at the 
wrong time.

Machiavellean

"VAE VICTIS! Woe to the vanquished."

George Bush is an "American" joke, Non?

Arrogance can be defined as calling oneself "American" when in 
fact ones country is a part of a continent called America (in 
this case part of Nth America).

The difference between the US and other countries is that it's 
citizens just cannot laugh at themselves. Their idea of humour 
is lame assed, taped laughter moralistic sit-coms. It was not 
always thus. but unfortunately the more wealthy they become, the 
more miserable they get (not to mention greedy).

As individuals Yanks are just as nice as anyone anywhere, as a 
nation THEY SUCK!

as a nation England BLOWS French suck even worse. England is 
weak military, politically, and economically in comparison to 
America. Same can be said for all other European nations. As a 
nation, us Yanks are powerful; Thats why we kick so much ass. 
Sometimes I don't support the fights, but I reckognize that 
America is the most powerful nation in the history of the world. 

America is the most powerful nation in the history of the world.



Now THAT'S funny!

All men are born equal. But if they're brought up in the US, then
they sink to the level of retard christian gun wielding nutcases.

I think the world should unite together and make a pre-emtive
strike against the US. Let's face it... That's where the new NAZI
like government is most likely to come from (I'm placing bets on
theocratic lunacy as its form).

What's the boby bag count now? Any bets on what the number will 
be by Xmas?

I agree with sa27, England is a weak military nation. What about 
China?

heyt

HATE SPELT BACKWARDS IS ETAH!

China can kick USA ass anytime.

I S L A M  SPELLED BACKWARDS IS STILL  *S H I T*.

China can kick USA ass anytime.
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BRING IT ON.  CHINESE FRIED RICE SOUNDS GOOD.  HIROSHIMA PROVED 
ASIANS *CAN* BE OVERCOOKED AND THEY MELT AT HIGH TEMPS.

ALl CHINA NEEDS IS PATIENCE. THE USA IS ALREADY ON THE PATH TO 
SELF DESTRUCTION. I AM GLAD MOST YANKS HAVE FIRE-ARMS; HOPEFULLY 
THEY WILL ALL END UP SHOOTING EACH OTHER.

SIXTY TWO YEARS AGO THE JAPS GOT HIGH ENOUGH ON SAKI TO ATTACK 
THE U.S. NAVEL BASE AT PEARL HARBOR. FIVE YEARS LATER THEY WERE 
SCRAPING THE RADIOACTIVE DUST OF THEIR RELATIVES OFF SIDEWALKS 
FOR BURIAL. 

ALL THE RAGHEADS IN THE AUDIENCE, SHOULD THANK THE GREAT, 
COMPASSIONATE U.S.A. THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SPARED --- SO FAR.

WHAT IS THE BODY BAG COUNT NOW?

you people are such fucking bigots it's disgusting.

and you are a fucking twat, hohohohoho

The difference between the US and other countries is that it's 
citizens just cannot laugh at themselves.
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I promise to start laughing at myself, just as soon as I get 
done laughing at YOU!!!!! 

Why the fuck would you want to laugh at yourself? 

It seems that you are mad that some Americans on this board take 
politics seriously.  Maybe we take it seriously because we are a 
powerful and influential nation. We aren't the faggot French or 
wherever you are from; you can just fuck around, and no big shit 
happens, but when America fucks up(Iraq), everyone notices.

Hello. I am a fat dumb head and are into anal intercourse with
various animals. I am a true poo eater and pedophile of the worst
kind.

Maybe we take it seriously because we are a 
powerful and influential nation.
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That got its ass kicked one day by 19 ARABS!
Very Powerful.
america influenced the WHOLE WORLD that day.
The Day The Rest Of The World Laughed.

BYE BYE SADDAM!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ACE OF SPADES   CAPTURED!!

SADDAM IS CAUGHT. GOD, WHAT A FILTHY PIECE OF LICE INFESTED 
SHIT! HIS SONS WERE MANGLED AND SENT TO HELL. HAHAHAHAA!

WHO'S LAUGHING NOW MOTHERFUCKER -- LMFAO!!!

BIN HIDIN ISNT FAR BEHIND EITHER! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hooray, Saddam has been caught! That is one war mongering 
undemocratic tyrant bought to justice......NOW FOR GEORGE BUSH!

Non?

Viva la Franciose! U.S. is le bully d'internationale.

I love Saddam Hussein with all of my anus.

Fuck France. No contracts for you two faced fucking backstabbing 
pieces of snail shit. Have loads of fun with the 1/2 population 
of ragheads who are taught to kill the Jews and the rest of you 
non-muslim sacks le shit. Outlaw their towels, and they'll take 
over France, Hahaha.

Viva la Mohammad!

Christ allmighty you French are ignorant. Every fucken 
hairbrained death cult ever invented, you freaks fall for it.

You are as dopey as the name you have assumed! You cannot even 
see that "Francoise Frie" is just a play on "French Fries" you 
dim-wit.

Numb-nuts like yourself are easy to sucker into some 1/2 cocked 
reactive statements. Insult the French all you like because:
(1)The French would not care a jot for your igoramus point of 
view;
(2)I am not French, I am a U.S. citizen (Sacramento, Calif);
(3)You are a goose, and as a goose your views are without merit.

So keep the nasty notes rolling block-head, you give us smart 
cookies something to laugh at!
 

From: Laughing at those that Laugh at AMERICA 
To: Laugh at this 
Date: Sun Dec 14 08:37:22 2003 
Message:
BYE BYE SADDAM!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ACE OF SPADES   CAPTURED!!
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Meanwhile, the rest of us are STILL laughing with Osama at the 9-
11 SKYDIVERS! And of course at the GROUND ZERO ZEROS!

What was the weather in New York on sept 11, 2001? Sunny, with a 
chance
of scattered airliners!

What is the differance between an American and a piece of bird-
shit?
Bird-shit doesn't scream as it falls 140 storeys.

How many Americans can you fit into a Volkswagen? 3 in front, 3 
in
back, and 3000 in the ashtray!

What does WTC stand for? Watch Them Crumble

What was the best thing to arise from the attacks? Smoke!

What does NYFD stand for? Now You're Fucking Dead!

What is the worst thing about the sept 11 attacks? They only got 
3000.


What film were they showing on the plane that crashed into the 
tower?
"Towering Inferno"

What was the last thing that went through the minds of the 
passengers
as it hit the tower? The vertical stabilizer!

Kalifornia, France; same fucken thing, chock full of queer 
fruitcake cunts like you.

Wanted:

Images of Iraqi and Afghan children with their little arms 
and/or legs blown off by American munititions (HOOO YAAAA!) but 
still have the towel wrapped around their stinky little heads. 
TOP DOLLAR PAID!!

You have been smelling dog's asses for far too long...you 
obviously are suffering from substance abuse - sniffing dog shit.

How's the recovery from the frontal lobotomy going? scars healed 
yet?

Woof woof woof woof.

How long have you being advertising on the Net for pictures of 
little children? At least we all know what kind of pervert you 
are now! Hopefully the FBI will trace you (through your I.S.P.)
and you will get the chemical castration you so richly deserve.

Who the hell is Fr. Fhilfart?

DEAD  A R A B S  are  G O O D  A R A B S!!!  Especially the 
potential breeders!! Killem in the womb is best!!

Suck my wank Carol faggot, I'll give you a full lobotomy via ur 
ear canal u muzzie doggie-style, doggie-ugly, San Franqueersco 
bitch.

From: F U C K A R A B S 
To: Diddly Twat 
Date: Tue Dec 16 06:55:46 2003 
Message:
Kalifornia, France; same fucken thing, chock full of queer 
fruitcake cunts like you.

Wanted:

Images of Iraqi and Afghan children with their little arms 
and/or legs blown off by American munititions (HOOO YAAAA!) but 
still have the towel wrapped around their stinky little heads. 
TOP DOLLAR PAID!!
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There is absolutely no difference whatsoever between you, and 
the terrorists on 9-11. You have much more in common with them 
than with Americans.

I HAVE COME TO THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION THAT THE BEST WAY TO 
ERADICATE ISLAMIC TERRORISM IS ERADICATE ISLAM AND MAKE THE 
PRACTISE OF ISLAM A WORLDWIDE CRIME IMMEDIATLY PUNISHABLE BY 
DEATH.

IN SHORT, THE IDEA IS TO KILL THE FUCKEN BASTARDS BEFORE THEY 
CAN KILL NON-BELIEVERS. BUSH HAS TAKEN SOME BABY STEPS TO THIS 
END BUT THE TIMETABLE NEEDS TO BE SPED UP. HOW IS THIS DONE YOU 
ASK. TWO WORDS - NUCLEAR WEAPONS. GIVE EVERY ISLAMIC COUNTRY ONE 
MONTH TO ERADICATE ISLAM IN THEIR LAND, EVERY MOSQUE, EVERY 
KORAN, EVERY FUCKEN THING REMOTELY RELATED TO ISLAM. IF THEY 
FAIL TO COMPLY WITHIN ONE MONTHS TIME, BEGIN BY NUKING THEIR 
CAPITOL, GIVE THEM TWO DAYS TO RENOUNCE THE DEATH CULT OF ISLAM. 
THEN BEGIN NUKING ON MAJOR CITY EVERY OTHER DAY WITH A DAY 
INBETWEEN CALLED "MERCY DAY". CONTINUE THIS SCHEDULE UNTIL SAID 
SHITHOLE COUNTRY IS GLOWING ON SATELLITE IMAGES.

MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SHITHOLE IN THE SAND - REPEAT.

there is nothing logical about that.  See a doctor about your 
erectile disfunction...is that why you're so mad?

Clearly you are some form of inverse quadraplegic...that is, you 
are DEAD FROM THE NECK UP. You cannot grasp that some one is 
baiting you so you fall for it HOOK, LINE AND SINKER!

I guess we are wrong to expect an intelligent response from a 
demented 4 year old. By the way, how are things at your trailer 
park?

YOU "CLEVER FOLK" LAUGH AND JOKE AS THE ISLAMICS PLOT YOUR MASS 
SLAUGHTER. THAT IS NOT CLEVER, THAT IS DENILE OR STUPIDITY.

WHEN THE ISLAMIC DEVILS DETONATE A NUCLEAR DEVICE IN A LARGE 
CITY KILLING 200,000, ALL YOU POLITICALY CORRECT DENIERS WILL 
REMEMBER MY WISE WORDS AND CRY LIKE BABIES. MEANWHILE I WILL BE 
TRAVELING FROM MOSQUE TO MOSQUE, CLEANSING AMERICA OF THIS EVIL.

Just had a thought....... More americans are killed in a year 
by other americans (murder and manslaughter) than those killed 
by acts of terror (911 included)... Just a thought, but 
wouldn't keeping homegrown killers under control rate as a 
higher priority???

Hey, about every denomination of christianity has comminted 
attrocities...
Lutherans = Gas Chambers
Catholics = This that and whatever
Davidians = yikes!
etc etc...
Perhaps we should add them to the hit list.... bomb any city 
not purging the death cult that is Christianity...
Now lets not forget the Mormons and their acts of Genocide 
against native Americans in Utah.... So we have to erradicate 
any city not banning the death cult that is Mormon...
MOSAD.... Early 20th century Jewish Terrorism... etc etc... 
Guess we have to wipe out the death cult that is Judaism...
The Athiests, as state approved religion in Soviet Russia 
murdered many people on the basis of their religion.... We must 
wipe out the death cult that is Atheism.....
Hindu has it's fare share of murder..... execute the death cult 
that is Hindu... Bomb India...

The truth is.... we can't trust anyone, so we have to kill 
everyone... including you of course... Don't worry, when you 
and everyone else is dead, you will thank me because there will 
be no more terrorism...

Change your name to F U C K H U M A N S and I'll let you live 
long enough to see all religions die, ending with our joint 
suicide :)

NOTE TO THE SANE: I AM BEING SARCASTIC. SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST 
DUMB AREN'T THEY?

Ummmm.... Guys.... I'm scared.... The Middle East is pissed 
with the US and Bin Laden is on the loose.... Where is Bin 
Laden?

The fact that everyone is chatting about Saddam and Iraq, and 
not Al Queda, on a board about 911 shows one thing... America 
has not kept it's eye on the ball.

THANK YOU ALL FOR ATTENDING TONIGHTS CLASS. THERE IS MUCH FOR 
YOU TO LEARN FROM THIS LESSON.

BUT FIRST WE MUST DEAL WITH A DISRUPTOR WHO LIVES IN THE PAST, 
AND IGNORES THE PRESENT THE AND BELIEVES THE MIGHTY U.S. 
INTELLIGENCE MACHINE HAS LOST BIN LADIN.

SIR, THIS IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE, WE HAVE BIN LADEN CONFINED TO A 
RELATIVLY SMALL AREA IN WESTERN PAKISTAN THAT IS CURRENTLY OFF-
LIMITS FOR OUR HEROES TO OPERATE IN. SINCE PAKISTAN IS A COUNTRY 
FILLED WITH DEVIL WORSHIPPING ISLAMIC WOMEN BEATERS, AND HAS 
NUCLEAR WEAPONS, THIS SITUATION HAS TO BE HANDLED CAREFULLY. 
IMAGINE THE HAVOC IF THOSE RABID BRAINDEAD ISALAMI ANIMALS 
OVERTHROW MUSHARAF AND TAKE CONTROL OF PAKISTANS NUKES. THE BIN 
LADEN SITUATION IS WELL UNDER CONTROL AT THIS POINT.

NOW THEN, THE NINTH CIRCUT COURT OF APPEALS TODAY ONCE AGAIN 
PROVED THEIR HATRED OF AMERICA BY RULING THE FILTHY DISEASED 
ANIMALS QUARANTEENED AT GUANTANAMO ARE HUMAN ENOUGH TO HAVE 
LAWYERS. I SUGGEST THE JUDGES ARE TRAITORS TO THIS GREAT NATION 
AND SHOULD IMMEDIATLY BE PUT TO DEATH. FURTHERMORE, POLICY 
SHOULD BE CHANGED REGARDING ANY ISLAMIC DETAINEES. INTERROGATE 
THEM FOR A PERIOD OF NO MORE THAN TWO WEEKS, THEN EXECUTE THEM 
IN THE FIELD, CUT THE BODIES INTO PIECES AND SCATTER THE PIECES 
ALL AROUND THE SHITHOLE THE WERE CAPTURED IN AND MAKE THESE 
ACTIONS KNOWN TO THE REST OF THE GOAT FUCKERS IN SAID SHITHOLE.

NOW THAT MALVO THE ISLAMIC PIECE OF SHIT BOY HAS BEEN FOUND 
GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS BY THE GREAT CITIZENS OF VIRGINIA, KILL 
THAT FUCKEN BABY RUTH BAR WITH HIS FAGGOT SUGAR DADDY BY A ROPE 
AROUND THE NECK AND A GOOD OLD FASHIONED PICKUP TRUCK DRAGGING!

THAT IS ALL FOR TONIGHT MY FAITHFULL FOLLOWERS. ISLAM IS IN ITS 
DEATH THROES AND IT'S UP TO ALL OF US TO KILL THE EVIL WHEREVER 
IT EXISTS. GOOD NIGHT.

Here is another one, Qadaffi just caved in. Libya want's OFF 
the shit list. He want's to restore relations with the US, give 
up his WMD, Turn over all information he has on Terrorists, and 
return to a good relationship with the United States. I would 
say, they are falling like Dominos..He He He
Laugh at that...HaHaHaHa
Maybe we have scared the shit out of some folks :-)

WRITE A MINIMUM THREE LINE ESSAY DESCRIBING THE VARIOUS WAYS THE 
FOLLOWING SCENERIO IS PREVENTABLE, AND POST YOUR ASSIGNMENT TO 
THIS BOARD. I WILL GRADE EACH RESPONSE AND THIS WILL COUNT 1/3 
TOWARDS YOUR FINAL GRADE IN THIS CLASS.


 She is 25 years old, single, and very pretty. She is Saudi by 
citizenship and Palestinian by birth. Her father was killed by 
Israeli troops when she was 12 years old, and the hatred has 
festered for 13 years.


Khadra came to the United States on a student visa in 1998, went 
to school for two quarters, and then just disappeared from view. 
When she left her family, she knew, and they probably knew, that 
they would never see each other in this life again.


A mosque about 4 miles from downtown Manhattan has been the 
focus of her life since coming to the U.S. She lived in a small 
studio apartment just a few blocks away and did work for a 
cleric. He trained her well but certainly did not have to 
convince her about the worthiness of her mission. After the fall 
of the Twin Towers on 9-11, she would both make history and 
obtain vengeance for her father.


Khadra stepped into a special pair of pants that strapped to her 
shoulders. At crotch level was held a 35-pound ANFO bomb. The 
cleric learned to build the bomb compliments of two members of 
the IRA who had visited him a year and a half ago. Using 
fertilizer, diesel fuel, an accelerant for maximum burn, and 
shrapenel consisting of rusty nails and ball bearings, the 
device would do nicely.


The trip to Times Square to watch the dropping of ball would be 
difficult. She had seen it played out several times on 
television. It would be very cold, but Khadra could not risk 
taking a cab, a bus, or the subway. Although she wore a heavy 
coat, the cold would be bone chilling. She prayed to Allah that 
there would be no snow because she so hated snow. 


Khadra avoids eye contact but pays attention to everyone she 
passes. If she sees a police officer or member of the military, 
she does not want to get too close. Those people may realize 
that she is wearing an inordinate amount of perfume to hide the 
smell of the fertilizer and diesel fuel.


She is hungry and thirsty but does not want to stop. There is no 
time to sit and rest. No time for second thoughts. All that 
matters is the mission. All that matter is avenging those who 
have aided her father's killers. 


This walk had been practiced many times before, in both good 
weather and bad. Fortunately for Khadra, it is cold but neither 
raining nor snowing.


At 11:45 PM, Khadra finally makes it to Times Square. She wants 
to get as close to the ball as possible because it will provide 
for the best image on television. Yes, on FOX News, CNN, and 
outlets throughout the world, the picture will be an image that 
will never be forgotten. Her family will be rewarded, and she 
will be rewarded for striking the infidels. She will be an 
inspiration to other noble and brave women who will volunteer to 
follow in her footsteps. 


No longer is Khandra worried that she will be discovered. She 
makes a call to her cleric on her cell phone, takes off her 
gloves, and puts both hands in her pockets. Each hand will be 
near the button of a detonator that is powered by a 9V battery. 


Khadra looks around at the people who are mostly younger. In a 
very short time, they expect to be hugging and kissing and 
ringing in the New Year. As the ball starts coming down, the 
crowd is chanting 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1- 
Happy...................................

you are a homosexual

America can do no wrong whatsoever.

From: F U C K A R A B S 
To: STUDENTS 
Subject: TONIGHTS LESSON PLAN 
Date: Fri Dec 19 19:41:09 2003 
Message:---------------------------------------------------------

That was a beautiful story! One can only hope that your loved 
ones will be making a guest appearence as falling debris!

Sounds like you are beginning to understand about living in fear!
                         GOOD!!!!!!!!

From: F U C K A R A B S 
To: 
Date: Thu Dec 18 07:01:13 2003 
Message:
YOU "CLEVER FOLK" LAUGH AND JOKE AS THE ISLAMICS PLOT YOUR MASS 
SLAUGHTER. THAT IS NOT CLEVER, THAT IS DENILE OR STUPIDITY.

WHEN THE ISLAMIC DEVILS DETONATE A NUCLEAR DEVICE IN A LARGE 
CITY KILLING 200,000, ALL YOU POLITICALY CORRECT DENIERS WILL 
REMEMBER MY WISE WORDS AND CRY LIKE BABIES. MEANWHILE I WILL BE 
TRAVELING FROM MOSQUE TO MOSQUE, CLEANSING AMERICA OF THIS EVIL.
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1. Meanwhile, you'll be doing NOTHING, because you're an 
american, which means all you'll be doing is flapping your big 
stupid mouth, making idle threats.
2. I hope they detonate a nuclear device on Christmas Day! The 
sound of bells and americans screaming should go very well 
together. Looking forward to it!

From: F U C K A R A B S 
To: 
Subject: W.O.T. 
Date: Wed Dec 17 17:28:40 2003 
Message:
I HAVE COME TO THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION THAT THE BEST WAY TO 
ERADICATE ISLAMIC TERRORISM IS ERADICATE ISLAM AND MAKE THE 
PRACTISE OF ISLAM A WORLDWIDE CRIME IMMEDIATLY PUNISHABLE BY 
DEATH.

IN SHORT, THE IDEA IS TO KILL THE FUCKEN BASTARDS BEFORE THEY 
CAN KILL NON-BELIEVERS. BUSH HAS TAKEN SOME BABY STEPS TO THIS 
END BUT THE TIMETABLE NEEDS TO BE SPED UP. HOW IS THIS DONE YOU 
ASK. TWO WORDS - NUCLEAR WEAPONS. GIVE EVERY ISLAMIC COUNTRY ONE 
MONTH TO ERADICATE ISLAM IN THEIR LAND, EVERY MOSQUE, EVERY 
KORAN, EVERY FUCKEN THING REMOTELY RELATED TO ISLAM. IF THEY 
FAIL TO COMPLY WITHIN ONE MONTHS TIME, BEGIN BY NUKING THEIR 
CAPITOL, GIVE THEM TWO DAYS TO RENOUNCE THE DEATH CULT OF ISLAM. 
THEN BEGIN NUKING ON MAJOR CITY EVERY OTHER DAY WITH A DAY 
INBETWEEN CALLED "MERCY DAY". CONTINUE THIS SCHEDULE UNTIL SAID 
SHITHOLE COUNTRY IS GLOWING ON SATELLITE IMAGES.
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What an AMAZING PLAN! There is only one thing wrong with it: it 
will NEVER be implemented, because YOU are a nobody, and no one 
anywhere listens to you! 


                     Isn't it beautiful?

THREE MISERABLE F'S SO FAR WITH 'LAUGHING AT AMERICA' THE DUMBEST
OF THE BUNCH. BUT THAT'S NO SURPRISE. HE LIVES IN FANTASY LAND 
AND IS BLIND TO THE FACT THE MIGHTY U.S.A. HAS TAKEN OVER TWO 
ISLAMIC NATIONS AND IS COMPLETE CONTROL. PERHAPS IT IS MORE OF A 
DENILE COMBINED WITH BRAINWASHED RETARDATION THAN A BLINDNESS. 
GHADAFFI IN LIBYA HAS CRAWLED UPON HIS KNEES AND BEGGED FOR THE 
LIDE OF HIS PEOPLE. THE ONCE MIGHTY CHAMPION OF ARABS SADDAM 
HUSSEIN HAS BEEN REDUCED TO HIDING IN DIRT AND KISSING THE BOOTS 
OF AMERICAN SOLDIERS. HE IS IMPRISONED AND SPENDS HIS LAST DAYS 
UNDER BRIGHT LIGHTS CONSTANTLY BEING TREATED LIKE A FILTHY 
COCKROACH. THE ARAB WORLD WILL BOW DOWN AND RENOUNCE ISLAM OR 
THE SAME FATE AWAITS THEM ALL. 

IF A SMALL NUCLEAR DEVICE WERE TO BE DETONATATED IN THE UNITED 
STATES IT WOULD BE OPEN SEASON ON MOSQUES AND MUSLIMS WITH NO 
HUNTING LISCENSE REQUIRED AND NO BAG LIMITS. THE STENCH OF 
RIGHTOUS DEATH WILL SPREAD ACROSS THE LAND AS AMERICA IS 
CLEANSED OF THIS EVIL. A NEW HOLIDAY WILL BE BORN IN 
CELEBRATION. 

PERHAPS IT IS MORE OF A 
DENILE COMBINED WITH BRAINWASHED RETARDATION THAN A BLINDNESS.
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The funny part is: You uttering the words "BRAINWASHED 
RETARDATION", while proving to one and all that you have a piss 
poor education! 
D-E-N-I-A-L not DENILE! LOL!!! 

The only sad thing that happened on 9-11 was that you were left 
alive.

It really pisses me of when some no-nothing little shit like 
you mouths-off about killing people he does not know or 
understand, in a situation he does not understand.

If you knew what it was like to kill another human being you 
wouldn't be saying what you are saying, and if you had the 
balls to be fighting for ANY cause you wouldn't be mouthing off 
in here.

I've seen active duty in two peacekeeping operations, and in 
the process of doing so have killed two men. I don't enjoy that 
I killed anyone, I don't hate them even though they tried to 
kill me. They were just brought up in a tough world, the kind 
that milksops like you will never have to deal with. Their 
environment drove them crazy.

Shits like you can't use that excuse. You hide behind your 
nation's soldiers and shout threats like it will be you doing 
the fighting. It's like "Laughing at America" said, you're 
nobody. So stop pretending to speak with Authority, and go beat 
off to your WWF fake-fighting homo-erotica.

Speaking as someone who has killed (in a manner I believe I can 
justify), I can see no justification for the US's current 
bullying of other nations (with the threat of violence).

In the "war on terror", the US (and allies) should have 
continued the focus on afghanistan with possible multi-lateral 
support (to manage the pakistan/india/afghanistan situation). 
It would have been better if the US had worked to undermine the 
internal threats to Pakistan's government before entering 
Afghanistan, but hey... that wouldn't win as many votes...

Iraq had nothing to do with Al-Queda (but it does now).

FUCK YOU JOHN MOHAMMAD, WE DON'T WANT CANDY ASSED WHACKO MUSLIM 
ASSHOLES LIKE YOU IN THE ARMY OF GOD. MOST PROBABLY KILLED TWO 
FELLOW SOLDIERS AS THEY SLEPT. FUCKING MUSLIM TRASH.

MY WORDS WILL RING PROPHETIC ONE DAY, AFTER THE WORLD IS 
CLEANSED OF THE CANCER CALLED ISLAM. IT IS THE ONLY WAY PEACE IS 
POSSIBLE FOR HUMANITY.

The whole point is: Y-O-U won't be anywhere near any fighting!
Jacking your jaw does not save the world, it only makes you 
sound like a whiner. And 9 times out of 10, a whiner isn't going 
to do ANYTHING.

NO. THE POINT IS YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT ANYTHING. I MAY BE THE 
FARMER WHO COMES UP BEHIND YOU AND SLICES YOUR THROAT FOR AIDING 
THE ENEMY AND SPITS ON YOU AS YOU BLEED TO DEATH. YOU DON'T KNOW.

THE DAY WILL COME IN THE GLORIOUS CRUSADE - WHICH HAS BEGUN - 
WHEN ALL WILL CHOOSE EITHER THE TRUTH OF FREEDOM OR THE 
CONTROLLING LIES OF ISLAM. YOU AND G.I. JACKOFF HAVE CHOSEN 
CERTAIN DEATH. 

LOL!!! One of the funniest posts ever!
Anyone with half a brain can tell you're a little sissyboy, who 
got your ass kicked a lot in grade school!
GLORIOUS CRUSADE.....ROFL!!!!
....and where will YOU be during this crusade........hiding 
under a urinal? 

"AFTER THE WORLD IS CLEANSED OF THE CANCER CALLED ISLAM. IT IS 
THE ONLY WAY PEACE IS POSSIBLE FOR HUMANITY." there wasn't peace 
before Islam started.  Israelis were killing people, Alexander 
the great killed thousands and made an empire, the romans 
murdered thousands...the list goes on and on.  What makes you 
think there will be peace after it is gone? Learn some history 
before you open your ignorant mouth. 

And if you are so mad about killing for religion, you might want 
to look towards Christianity.  Far more have been killed in the 
name of Jesus than the prophet Mohammed.

Well I guess Iran is a bit busy with 15,000 bodies to have to 
clean up. Hope Bin Hidin's son was one of them.
Merry Christmas! :-)

Strange that you think I'd be upset at the death of Iranians!
Someday, if you ever get an education, you may get a glimpse of 
just how moronic your post is! LOL!!!!

YES IT IS SAD 20,000 PERSIANS HAD TO DIE IN THE RIGHTIOUS 
CRUSADE TO RID THE WORLD OF THE EVIL. THE SUB-TERRAINIAN DEVICES 
ARE PROVING THEIR WORTH. THE ISLAMIC WORLD IS ALREADY BUCKLING 
AND STAGGERING FROM THE MIGHTY BLOWS REIGNING DOWN UPON THEM.

IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE UNTILL ISLAM IS REJECTED WORLDWIDE.

YES IT IS SAD 3,000 HAD TO DIE IN THE RIGHTIOUS 
CRUSADE TO RID THE WORLD OF THE EVIL. THE TERROR DEVICES 
ARE PROVING THEIR WORTH. AMERICA IS ALREADY BUCKLING 
AND STAGGERING FROM THE MIGHTY BLOWS REIGNING DOWN UPON IT. 
AMERICA IS LOSING ITS FREEDOM, WHICH IS JUST WHAT IT DESERVES.

IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE UNTILL AMERICA LEARNS TO ACT WITH HONOUR.

I'm not islamic you dick, I'm an athiest.

And before you start rambling on about islam being muderous, 
have a read of your own statements (cutting peoples throats, 
army of god etc).

I know many good christians, and many good muslims. None of 
them have ever raped, pillaged or mudered. Most of them have 
shown compasion to others reguardless of their religion.

The two people that I killed claimed to be killing in the name 
of god (in the balkans). They also raped in "the name of god". 
They claimed to be Christians, yet they didn't act very 
christian. Especially when they tried to kill me (for 
protecting the innocent civilians they refered to as infidels).

Put simply, the "army of god" does not exist (in a military 
context anyway). These were just some racist shits who hated 
muslims. They tried to kill me, they failed and died. In the 
end I felt sorry for the misguided idiots.

Funny, you claim to be a part of the "army of god", and you say 
that I am in league with islam. You trheaten to kill me as 
well. Why is it then that I am not worried.

I can feel sorry for a couple of sad cases from a country where 
poverty, violence and a lack of a decent education system are 
endemic. The thing is, you can't use any of those excuses. You 
are from "the land of oportunity".

Pick up your act.

psychological warfare

 
In light of the new war being waged on terrorism I think that 
America should strike back with a little psychological 
terrorism of our own. The apparent problem with these terrorist 
bastards is not one of politics but one of basic intrinsic 
human beliefs: they simply hate our American ideals. 

Chief among their complaints is our "corrupt" capitalist 
system. Capitalism, the key ingredient to making the U.S. the 
financial powerhouse of the world, is the one thing that 
offends these terrorists' misinterpreted Islamic principles 
more than any other. 

So how do we strike back at them? The answer is amazingly 
simple: we incorporate them into our market. We contact Proctor 
& Gamble and Johnson & Johnson as well as any other mass-market 
corporate conglomerate and get them to produce a line of aptly 
named household goods that will show our contempt for these 
fanatical morons. 

By redefining American goods with a line of products whose 
names held dear to many a hooded militant we can strike targets 
that no amount firepower can ever hope to reach: their hearts. 
With what better weapon can we attack these idiots than with 
the very same capitalism that they hate us for? Essentially 
this line of products is one that, if advertised heavily 
throughout the hotbed of the Middle East, will easily break the 
spirit of even the most ardent supporter of cowardly attacks 
against innocent civilians. 

Here are just a few of what I'm sure you will easily agree to 
be both a patriotic duty as well as the means to turn a tidy 
profit: 



jihad
While this nasty little name really means a holy war to be 
declared by and for some moral degenerate, I have always 
thought that this would be a great name for a refreshing malt 
liquor. Since Islamic law forbids the consumption of alcohol 
and displays of human sexuality, all the better if the ad 
campaign for this product combines both. Imagine bikini-clad 
lovely ladies giggling and flirting with college guys who are 
throwing back a couple of ice cold Jihads on Daytona Beach. Of 
course Jihad would only come in forty ounce bottles or wide-
mouth pounder cans (one can't have just a small Jihad after 
all). Imagine the voice-over: "Jihad. When you want more than 
just a little." 

Taliban
This name of the misguided leaders of Afganistan's government 
means "student." However, their intolerance of other religions 
as well as their support of terrorists shows what poor students 
of the Islamic faith they really are. While remaining true to 
certain facets of the religion, they throw all the important 
ones, empathy, tolerance and reason for example, out the 
window. Like so many people who become blinded by religious 
faith (Born Again Christians and Scientologists come to mind 
here) they concentrate on the small things and, by doing so, 
eradicate the love and acceptance that are the basis of any 
religion. 

Among these small things is their silly denial of the 
consumption of pork. I mean come on! They don't mind helping 
out killers but eating a BLT is a sin? It just doesn't make any 
sense. In essence the Taliban remind me of that mean Baptist 
preacher in the Kevin Bacon blockbuster film Footloose who 
thought that dancing was part of Satan's master plan. 

With this in mind I think that Taliban would be a great name 
for a set of non-stick cookware. At first glance this may not 
seem like much but imagine a housewife cooking lots and lots of 
pork. Then you have a nice, friendly Walt Disney-like voice 
that comes out of nowhere and starts saying "Do you love to 
cook lots and lots of pork but hate the clean up? Try Taliban 
cookware. When you love to eat pork but you hate to clean it 
up." 

Even better, think of how good this ad would be if you had 
Kevin Bacon frying up the pork instead of a plain Jane 
housewife! Oh the sweet, sweet irony! 

Hizbullah
This is the name of a terrorist group who is a supreme pain in 
the ass. Being so, an obvious product to bear this name would 
be an all-natural laxative. Picture the ad: a woman has just 
eaten an inordinate amount of cheese and can't purge herself of 
this meal no matter how hard she strains. Imagine her 
discomfort! Feel her pain! And then, like Manna from heaven, a 
golden light shines on a bottle of creamy, soothing laxative. 
Then a voice from nowhere, soft and gentle urges "We all need a 
lighter load from time to time. Hizbullah will help to ease 
your cramping and constipation every single time. Not Hizbullah 
but Hizbul-ahhhhhh." Then we see the cheese-loving woman enter 
the bathroom and with a slight, satisfied smile closes the door 
on constipation for good. 

al Qa'eda
The name of yet another terrorist organization and so would 
work well as a joint ad campaign with Hizbullah. But instead of 
striking at the cure for intestinal distress why not contribute 
to the cause? By incorporating this word into the fast food 
industry even more of the market will become available. 

"Introducing the new al Qa'eda extra spicy quesadilla with 
layers upon layers of tangy pepper jack cheese smothered in a 
delicious hummus and cool ranch sauce. Topped with a blend of 
peppers, onions and tabouli it's the perfect middle eastern 
treat with a bit of down home, southwestern pizzazz!" While 
obviously the al Qa'eda quesadilla would fit best with the Taco 
Bell menu it could be easily incorporated with any fast food 
menu selection by simply sandwiching the whole thing between 
two, wholesome sesame seed buns. A new name like the McQaeda 
Sandwich or something and you're looking at a surefire sell at 
any fast food chain. 

Plus the same chain that is selling it can easily sell the 
Hizbullah laxative right there at the counter. Think of the 
profits! Eat a McQaeda and then, before you leave, pick up a 
bottle of Hizbullah. Better yet we could incorporate the 
Hizbullah into a milkshake and you could dose while you chew! 

Osama bin Laden
Once the heir to a multimillion-dollar construction company, 
now one of the most wanted, and hated, men in history. While 
bin Laden is the focal point of recent troop movements so must 
it be the focal point of the new line of products. I have 
considered many different alternatives, everything from toilet 
bowl cleaners to a line of high-energy teas but nothing seemed 
to fit. 

Finally I was watching the news and I realized the answer was 
right in front of me the entire time. Do you know how every 
news station reports that bin Laden is always hiding out in 
caves? Well we capitalize on that idea and pair it up with the 
whole SUV craze. The bin Laden Sport Coup Xterra Deluxe; the 
first convertible SUV the world has ever known. The only car on 
the market powerful enough to rip across the desert but strong 
and agile enough to plunge into any dark crevasse in the 
toughest mountain terrain. 

The bin Laden S.C.X.D. would be a huge hit with that Gen X., 
Mountain Dew commercial-type of crowd who are constantly 
skydiving or snowboarding or whatever. Imagine the murmurs of 
admirers of this truly original car... 

Not only would the average SUV fan cast covetous looks at this 
fine vehicle but the very act of doing so would cast this 
product directly in line of national sentiment. Everyone wants 
to get bin Laden the terrorist. With this exciting new product 
everyone can get bin Laden the car. They already want it, all 
we have to do is supply it. What would be really great is if we 
could get the military to purchase a number of them and drive 
them around Afghanistan. Just as Operation Desert Storm brought 
about the commercial popularity of the Humvee, Operation 
Enduring Freedom can bring about the popularity of the bin 
Laden. At least we know that Arnold Schwarzenegger would buy 
one. 

Your humor is a little off.... relating these product names to 
muslims in general is like relating the names of CIA/Reaganite 
terrorists to ordinary, run off the mill (non-apocalyptic) 
christians (they have these types of chritians en masse outside 
the US).

The underlying assumption that the terrorists hate the US 
because of it's values is probably incorrect in any case.

It would be more accurate to say that people from the regions 
from which these terroists hail have been driven mad by US 
Foreign policy. Policy that doesn't accurately represent the 
sentiment of individual Americans (because by and large 
Americans don't give much consideration to foreign policy).

Viewing the acts of such US administrations through the eyes of 
such nations/peoples (who place foreign relations at the top of 
their agenda) would give the impression that US civilians are 
responsible for the said acts of terroism by US administrations.

When retaliating, the (insane) terrorists likely clump all 
Americans into one stereotype ("Army of the cross") which makes 
it easier for them to rationalise killing civilians. "American 
Values" is unlikely a consideration when it comes to the 
terrorism. Values of any nature usually enter the terrorist 
equasion when they decide to run at the mouth (in "Bin 
Ladenese", "capitalist infadel" is interchangable 
with "Christian Infidel" and "socialist infadel"). You only 
need read transcripts of his blatherings to see this.

In any case, I would have though Bin Laden best described a 
garbage can that could hold large quantities.

It's funny the pictures the media, historians and preachers 
paint.

CNN will show the proud mother of a palistinian suicide bomber, 
but they won't show toe countless more mothers who are sick of 
the violence and just want their offspring back...

We see American "Heros" enjoying the results of lobbing an ATR 
into a residential area in Iraq, yet we don't see the Americans 
feeding starving mouths in Africa.

Message boards like this seem to cater to the estimated one in 
five Americans with a mental disorder, while the other four in 
five wouldn't even know this site exists.

Jews are getting portrayed as mad-as-a-meat-axe zionists 
because of Israels foreign policy. Yet most Jews not living in 
Israel by and large don't support these policies, and get no 
coverage.

When you hear about South America in the US Media, it's only 
ever about a natural disaster, or a drug cartel. No mention is 
given of the dirt cheap produce or labor essential to the US 
Economy.

US Presidents (when not screwing around) are always portrayed 
as heros and humanitarians, yet it is never mentioned when a 
President orders funding for death squads that kill innocent 
civilians in order to prevent non-violent "economic situations" 
threatening the viability of off-shore US interests (Reagan and 
Contras).

The American people are portrayed as stupidly-patriotic, 
unthinking flock animals, following their Shepperd/Commander-in-
chief. No mention is given to those Americans who invoke their 
democratic right to protest (seriously, there were lots of 
Americans in the streets before Iraq, but if you were watching 
FOX/CNN/etc you wouldn't have seen it).

The horrors of tianamen square are famous. General McCarthy's 
orders directing tanks to run over homeless American protesters 
in 1950's Washington (killing many of them) goes forgotten.

Timothy McVeigh was tried as a mass muderer (rightly so). 
During his term as Govenor of Texas, George Bush Jr sent 
hundreds to the chair (more than all other states combined). 
Many of which never received a fair trial (some have been 
proven innocent at a later date). George Bush Jr is still at 
large.

Saddam Hussein illegaly produced chemical and biological 
weapons, using them on the Kurds. Saddam Hussein is in custody. 
Donald Rumsfeld who supported and made the production of these 
weapons possible (by establishing links between Saddam and US 
Biotech companies) is still a free man.

Rightly or Wrongly, the death of millions of Vietnamese through 
pre-emptive military action. America went into this war with 
soliders from other allied nations (such as Australia). 
Official American history says that America went into this war 
alone.

Official American history mentions the burning of the White 
House when English Redcoats attacked Washington. Official 
American History neglects to mention that in order to help 
sabotage an English occupation, Americans set fire to the white 
house.

Certain religeous preachers insist the the Jews are responsible 
for crusifying Christ ("They killed Baby Jesus" is the 
phrase"). Jesus (assuming he existed) was killed as an adult 
(not a baby) by Romans (not Jews) according to the Bible. They 
forget to mention that Jesus was a Jew (odd that some 
Christians don't like Jews huh).

American media, history and theology needs a healthy dose of 
skepticism (and much less cynicism). 

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